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codybear
03-27-2001, 06:41 PM
can this really work?
http://www.msnbc.com/news/550565.asp?bt=msn&btu=http://go.msn.com/zzj/1/1.asp?target=http://msn.com&cp1=1

skuz
03-27-2001, 08:09 PM
No it won't.

If tracks can be read, they also can be copied or ripped.

Looks to me like a marketing method : people will buy the disc to check out if this protection will work.

muno
03-27-2001, 09:12 PM
Why couldn't it work?
Perhaps there's some method like macrovision there that makes the tracks (when ripped) sound like dog****(isn't that the band keanu reeves plays in?).
-M

OuTpaTienT
03-27-2001, 11:06 PM
Neither one of you read the article, did ya? http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

Of course it can work as they have designed it. But that also means alot of unhappy customers for the music industry because their music CDs won't work in computer CD-Rom drives.

In regards to will it work to stop digital extraction of music from CDs...No, of course not. As stated in the article there's already software availible that will tell your CD-Rom drive to overlook misc errors during playback, the way a music CD drive does. Plus you could always play a CD in your stereo and run a line to you sound cards line in and record it the "old fashion way". Not as convenient as digital extraction but pristine sound quality can still be dupicated.

True copy protection won't come until they've moved away from the CD format.

skuz
03-28-2001, 07:45 AM
OuT, I did read the article before posting and that was my opinion.

jad1097
03-28-2001, 08:44 AM
It's more than just computer drives affected by this.


What A bunch of greedy fools! I am done buying new music. I already have more than enough now. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/biggrin.gif


Trouble is, many high-end and car-stereo CD players use CD-ROM technology, which is both more accurate and less likely to skip when the player is jostled. Consequently, some audiophiles and commuters may not be able to play protected CDs

BC
03-28-2001, 09:45 AM
They will refine the technology to where it will be protected and be able to play on Computer CDRom drives. But then you will find a site that has the software needed to rip even those files off. So in essence it will work but then won't. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif It is a cycle that keeps the work flowing and jobs open.

gyoung
03-28-2001, 09:58 AM
Finally an article that made some sense. It's the first time I've heard it.

The only way to do the copy protection is to come up with an entire new media to play it with the copy protection built in.

Sounds easy, but getting the public to adopt it will **** near be impossible. What they need to do is find a way to work with the digital music age.

If you can think of it right now it would be worth billions. So get your brain thinking!

vintron
03-28-2001, 10:42 AM
HAAAAHHAAAHAAAAHHAHAHA

:_))

Those guys are idiots..... i wonder where they had been for the last two-three years.

They say that they are going to use the error correction feature of computers cd readers to prevent them from reading the tracks. Don't these idiots know that all the latest technology drives ( and even some older one's) have adjustable error correction settings???????).

This is the stupidest thing i have heard in a long time http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif)

(this is just a trick to get people like us to buy the crappy cd's and "try" if ripping works)

[This message has been edited by vintron (edited 03-28-2001).]

muno
03-29-2001, 02:00 AM
I, too, did read the article =) Perhaps I just forgot about it when I started replying to the post. Who knows =)
-M

King_Kooba_Fantastique
03-30-2001, 12:06 AM
I agree with Out, however i also believe that there is always a way around copy protection, so there will never be 100% protection.

KKF.

Warthog
03-30-2001, 12:31 AM
There is no such thing as 100% protection in the computer world. NOTHING is ever secure forever.

BC is completely correct.

Warthog