pics of whistler....

[GroundZero3]

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im not realy fond of the new look. looks like i might be heading to linux really soon. not upgrading for sure. Im glad tho becasue most games and hardware are being supported in linux. plus the whole thing with its supposly new anti piracy doesn't make me to happy.

JaYsin

[CMonster]

Woof! - that is one **** ugly GUI!

Here are some odd notes: The Gnone desktop for Linux has now been ported to Windows - yes, Windows! So I guess even a Windows user can pretend to be using Linux. www.gtlinc.com/gnome-desktop.html (http://www.gtlinc.com/gnome-desktop.html)

On an even brighter note: The following quote is from www.maximumlinux.com (http://www.maximumlinux.com) "This is relatively unconfirmed since I don't have a
Macintosh to test on, but it
seems xlr8yourmac.com has a link to a Linux kernel for
Yellow Dog that
supports a Dual G4 processor. Sources at MacAddict say
it also supports up to
1GB of RAM."
--

[Warthog]

ewwwwwwwww.....ugly. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/frown.gif

MS is going downhill at warp speed.

Warthog

[JimG]

Ugh! . . . That's horrible. Are they trying to give everyone more reasons to switch to Linux or BeOS? Looks like Win98 and Win2k will be the last MS OSes I'll use.

[Barney]

It doesn't look very good, but I've heard that Whistler will have program you can use to change the skin. Those skins wouldn't be buggy, like the ones for Windowblinds. So I think this is really a good thing.

Ronald

[otheos]

it's clearly oriented to the complete idiot user (noticed the control panel?).

Now this is sort of expected: they at least know only idiots will buy whistler.

________________________
otheos: www.otheos.clara.net (http://www.otheos.clara.net)

[jl123]

I agree that is for the idiotic windows user. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

I don't like the look either. It is ugly and it's just plain stupid.

You won't see me buying that. It's time for Linix to let the hammer fall and create a OS that will wipe MS off the floor. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

~Joel

[AndreRIO]

i though it was pretty cool! http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

[NDD]

Hope it will have present Win2k skin, if any ... ugly creature, hate when they push us to consume something we don't need ... f**k 'em, and their law !!!

Best Regards ...

[RobRich]

Is MS really interested in forcing me to purchase a G4?! MacOS X appears to be a superior OS to Whistler, and that isn't saying much!

I've said before, looks like BeOS will likely become my OS of choice as this year progresses. BTW, the latest version of QNX was just released, check it out at:

http://www.qnx.com

Robert Richmond

[NDC]

****! That is one UGLY GUI on the Whistler! http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/frown.gif I think the Norton 2001's new GUI will coordinate quite well with it!


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[t048]

It looks like a bad web page. I think it will help non-computer users, though. It looks like it is geared towards the novice user.

[LiLRiceBoi]

i think its time for all of us to switch to linux

[CMonster]

In all fairness to MS Windows, Whistler or otherwise, there will always be someone completly new to computers like the couple I met today who were buying an eMachine. In their case Whistler might be an improvement.

This couple's main concern was the good software for thier 2-1/2 year-old to start learning with and would it run adequately on thier new/first family computer. I didn't have the heart to attempt to sway them from thier firm decision to buy an eMachine (hey at least it came with free Star Office), but I did give a hardy thumbs-up to the "Jump Start" learning series.

I hope to see more kid-centered educational software ported to Linux.

[GroundZero3]

Kind of curious. whats an emachine??

JaYsin

[AndreRIO]

you people talk and talk, i bet you guys will all buy whistler, as soon it is out, i know i will. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by AndreRIO (edited 01-21-2001).]

[Barney]

I will get Whistler, but buying it, no. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

Ronald

[RobRich]

I've had beta releases of nearly every MS OS since Win95. After a fresh install of the latest Whistler beta, I was quickly loading FORMAT.COM! Unless something drastically changes before the final release of Win2001, I'm not sold.

[Joel Kleppinger]

eMachines: http://www.e4me.com/

[seti]

Isn't Whistler going to have skins though? You may find that it will be able to take quite a different shape indeed.

As for the control panel...do you see what link the cursor is over? Me is the same way. MS is adding things to their OS's, but generally if you don't like there's options that allow you to take them away again.

I don't hear the throaty wail of a rotund lady just yet. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by seti (edited 01-21-2001).]

[Savant]

I never thought it possible, but they've done it.
They made it even worse.

[Roy]

Little pictures (I eschew the "i" word) are for the reading impaired.

[krusty the klown]

It looks like they've taken the Win 95 front end and slapped on the crappiest Window Blinds skin they can find.

[loser]

question...those of you that have whistler beta...can you give me the icons? i like the one for the trash can...if you can, thanx a lot..the icons would be in a dll file...i'm not sure which one...if you find it thanx a LOT!!!!

[Mark Stubblefield]

It's not the GUI I'm worried about, it's all of the bugs that will start showing up once the OS is installed http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

Long live Windows 2000 and Linux! http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif

[seti]

Hey "looser" http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

Try this site... http://www.starinc.f2s.com/misc.html

Edit &gt; sorry, it looks like those links are dead

[This message has been edited by seti (edited 01-23-2001).]

[storm2k]

the look? eh not great not horrible either. what concerns me more than the look is how well does it work? that's all that concerns me.

[loser]

hey seti...you are awesome!

[seti]

I am?...the links worked for you??? Cuz they're not working for me.

[GroundZero3]

when you first posted the site seti it didn't work now it works for me.

JaYsin

[loser]

hey seti...the link worked...but i couldn't get anything off his site...::no downloading

[wahrez]

That is truly **** ugly....i hope it was being run in low-res and low colour???

What is this about anti-piracy...er....not that I would use pirate software ofcourse...just interested for purely medicinal purposes.

[seti]

http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2678102,00.html


On Tuesday, Microsoft privately alerted Whistler testers that it is making substantial changes to the look and feel of the desktop versions of Whistler...

[Comtech]

Gee, if all you guys/girls want is a pretty GUI, go get a theme.
The one in the pictures just happens to be a new one called "Professional", although it's not that professional looking, you can still use MS themes, and get any colors, icons, etc., that you want.
What's really behind it, is the most stable platform/kernel ever, support for SMP (in the PRO version), and tons of security for multi-user/LAN/WAN setups.
Don't go knocking it just because you don't like the "look".
I'm using Beta1 (2296), and will NEVER go back to 98/2k!

[psyklone]

i suppose when you say, "the most stable platform/kernel ever ... and tons of security for multi-user/LAN/WAN setups" you are talking as far as the microsoft os is concerned ... because seriously, have you ever heard of linux .. solaris ... bsdi ...? need i go on?

research, research, research ... you'll feel like a new person, and your computer would definitely appreciate you (more?).


cheers,

psyklone

[thekingofpain]

Dont be so quick to discount it---I got it today and it looks so adjustable you may be happy with it afterall in its final version...
Gotta play with it some more...

[Ruahrc]

My thoughts on the screens themselves: Well asthetically, they are pretty nice. They're beginning to divert from the grey-box windows, and are merging into the more futuristic display-looks, which perosnally I like better than grey.

Functionally, however, I agree. It's simply too dumbed-down for the general masses. I find it very annoying when I have to constantly enable/disable/toggle/tweak visual settings so that windows will conform to my more "power user" style. The screens here show a big minus in that category.

My opinion, however: I would absolutely love it if MS released a version of windows that was power user friendly. No "Auto This" or "Step-by-step" that. I want to see the files in my windows directory, and to be able to mess with them. I want to see a list of these pictures in this folder, not a preview of it, options to print/email it, or a button to scan/capture a new picture. Since MS released W98, W98SE, and WinME (Which I do notuse because it is too bloated) I have kept trying to keep to the W95 bare standards. They're fast, effective, efficient, and I know what I'm doing.

OK- enough rambling more ideas. A minimalist windows with no blotation for "beginner users" would be perfect. My question though, are there enough of "us" out there to actually create an effective market for such a product?

Ruahrc
-who actually likes windows, but not the direction it's heading-

[Wilan Wong]

I have tried the beta release (1) of Windows Whistler, I had to say it was alright, but not much improvement there, you can revert back to the "Windows 2000 Style" without the new looking start menu and disable the more "simple" control panel etc. Microsoft is just wanting to get more money, since a majority of users aren't experienced with Windows. I'll say just stick with Windows 2000 since there wouldn't be much improvement and it would say you the money from having to buy it. Hence the name, Windows NT 5.1, only a 0.1 upgrade from Windows 2000 (NT5)...

[This message has been edited by Wilan Wong (edited 03-27-2001).]

[SX]

I'd have to aggree w/ you, Ruahrc. Some of my biggest frustrations with Windows (aside from the bugs and instability) are the 'features' aimed at people who don't know **** about computers. The thought of this getting worse is far from encouraging.

Hey, if I install RedHat Linux 7.0 from CD will it format my HDD or does it have a partition magic like way of cutting off a segment of my HDD and using it for linux? (I'm a pitiful Linux Newbie, don't laugh)


SX

[skywalker[TSG]]

ewwwwwwwww

man that was the most F****D up GUI i have even seen

[King_Kooba_Fantastique]

welcome to the club http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

KKF.

[thekingofpain]

I notice people are concerned about its "looks" it can be made to look like past versions of Windows if you like---ive been using it for about 8 hours now, I think its pretty cool---2 things strange---I didnt have to load any drivers for my hardware, and in 2 clicks it was totally integrated into my dsl lan...(but then again---I liked ME and many disagreed)

Oh and at the same time I installed Slackware (Linux) on an older machine, what a trip to create a multiple server situation in a matter of minutes...ive been busy learning...my brain needs that!

[This message has been edited by thekingofpain (edited 03-27-2001).]

[Comtech]

For the naysayers.
It's a great OS. Stable, fast, easy on the eyes, and if you want the old grey look, fine...
It's a tweakers paradise, from looks to speed, and LAN/WAN setup is a breeze. Superb hardware support...I could go on.
It's not much change from win2k, but it will run rings around 95/98/ME.
It is NOT Win2k for dummies, as ME is 98 for dummies (IMHO).
I run 4 boxes here, with a total of 6 different OS's (BeOS, Linux Mandrake, Win98, Win95, WinXP, OS/2), so don't start spewing about me NOT using/trying other alternatives.

[dafremen]

Although I agree that that is the most hideous thing yet, I must take issue with the comments about idiot users. Not that I don't agree that it was made for computer idiots, it's just that I want to know when the Linux community is going to SERIOUSLY consider an interface for Computer morons.

It's really that simple, until you have an idiot friendly interface, Windows will continue to dominate in sales and in commercial software support. Period. It's high time that the Linux community took that goal seriously, ESPECIALLY now that Microsoft has made this slip-up with whistler.

Linux has Windows beat all around, we all know that. Now it's time for the King of OS's to take it's rightful place as ruler of the desktop kingdom!!

8) Daffy



[This message has been edited by dafremen (edited 03-28-2001).]

[doctj]

I think BeOS is the king of OSes. I installed the free personal edition in a breeze. No drivers to install for my cd burner, dvd, zip drive even recognised my onboard audio which I had a tough time installing in windows. Boy is this OS powerful! It gives a whole new meaning to speed, multitasking and stability. I've never used win 2k but it beats win 9x in it's sleep. It only needs more apps and hardware support and it'll give me a reason not to enrich Bill Gates any further with win xp. In fact if I get a dual proceesor rig I'd only run BeOS as my primary OS.

[mudoggy]

dafremen,

Yup, you hit the nail right on the head with your statements, as far as I'm concerned.

That's the one thing keeping me from trying Linux etc.. the time/learing curve. Even then, it's not guaranteed to work with every piece of hardware (Well, neither is Windows, but I have yet to toss anything at it that didn't install quickly). Many people would love to try it, but aren't interested in the gung-ho programming/tweaking that it seems to need.

Look at PC's in general. You had the geek-tweak vanguard leading the way from the beginning. Once it become more widespread and hardware/software became more user friendly, more people jumped on board, developing whole new industries around it, and advancing the state-of-the-art for all. It's conceptually no different here. For true widespread acceptance, you need to fit the tool to the people, not the people to the tool. THEN give let them take advantage of the extra abilities to tweak, get in trouble and learn! hahaha

Although, I DO have several partitions, maybe once my MBA is done in May I could try something different on one of them, as long as I have my WinME to fall back on... (resource hog or not, it's still treated me better than Win98) http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

[Imperion1]

I'm not quite sure, but it looks kind of like a redesigned Windows 3, just change text size and icons.

[thekingofpain]

Hmmm---no scandisk, ummm, ok what did they change it to? I cant find it...