more NTFS rant

[AllGamer]

:rolleyes: .... well just after i thought the dust has settle down, yet again the last remaining NTFS partition pooched on me yesterday, and to make it worse the Ghost image was broken due to the previous problem

Now i have to rebuild the system from grounds up as far as Win2k/XP goes.

Win98/Linux and the rest are living ever happy, only the darn NTFS dies so easily

and the NTFS was suppose to be better and more robust than FAT16/32...yikes what a joke :x

after using PM7 i was able to convert the broken NTFS into a FAT32 which i was able to fix many of the corrupted files, but after going through a bunch of them and found out tha the USER.DAT + SYSTEM.DAT was also bad i realized the whole deal is poinltess, so i went to load the Ghost and to my surprise the ghost image has been damage as well

the only **** thing i don't get why is the stupid NTFS dies so easily after a system crash (BSOD), or un-expected reboots (power failure / reset button) :mad:

anyways.... trying to decide if i should even botter putting 2k/xp back at all or not at all, since i can do all my stuff in LINUX and Win98

i think i'll much rather throw Win2k and XP into a Linux VMWare PC than on a real PC

oh well back to the drawing board....
)-|

[BipolarBill]

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[Ol'Tunzafun]

Do you think it bad news on small partitions as well?

[xenomorph69]

AG .. Take the Dive.........

Do What I did Jump in with both feet and Hold on it is Quite a Ride....



100% Linux Try it... What is the worst that could happen?

su -
<pass>

fdisk /dev/hda
Start Deleting partitions and start from scratch again

PS..That was 16 Months ago and I have never looked back

[BipolarBill]

What AG is conveniently not mentioning here is that he created an NTFS partition greater than the supported size. I beg your pardon, but what sort of n00b is going to not partiton a 200GB drive?

If you take a hammer to an item that is not a nail, isn't something going to break? I'm sick of the Windows whiners. Play by the rules or go Linux and do us all a favor.

[Optimus Prime]

Originally posted by BipolarBill
What AG is conveniently not mentioning here is that he created an NTFS partition greater than the supported size. I beg your pardon, but what sort of n00b is going to not partiton a 200GB drive?

If you take a hammer to an item that is not a nail, isn't something going to break? I'm sick of the Windows whiners. Play by the rules or go Linux and do us all a favor.

hahaha. :P.

[AllGamer]

Originally posted by BipolarBill
What AG is conveniently not mentioning here is that he created an NTFS partition greater than the supported size. I beg your pardon, but what sort of n00b is going to not partiton a 200GB drive?



That was before now what used to be a huge NTFS partition is now a huge FAT32 partition, and that is happy, no errors

the problem i had this time is with the 2 Gig NTFS partition where Win2k resides

and after a software crash reboot (i run waaaaaay too much stuff at the same time) something has gone horribly wrong in the NTFS partition that Chkdsk can't fix or can't even find

so i went into Console Mode to check the stuff out, and found out the REGISTRY (user.dat and system.dat) was 0 kb !!!!

no wonder it kept on rebooting non stop cuz it couldn't find what else to do after that

so after NUKING the 2 Gig NTFS drive and reinstalled, now it's working fine

but it leaves me wonder... NTFS or Win2k or a combination of both is just not to be trusted.

and by pure irony the darn Ghost Image of Win2k was damaged :rolleyes:

yet all my other ghost images worked fine

so man, geez.. sometimes you really have to believe there's that higher power that is hinting you on something

in this case, i kinda get the message

Windows is just a piece of **** regardless of the version :D

[AllGamer]

Originally posted by xenomorph69
AG .. Take the Dive.........

Do What I did Jump in with both feet and Hold on it is Quite a Ride....



100% Linux Try it... What is the worst that could happen?

su -
<pass>

fdisk /dev/hda
Start Deleting partitions and start from scratch again

PS..That was 16 Months ago and I have never looked back

Oh, that's not a problem, i've been a long Linux user since kernel 1.0x

when it was real unstable

now i'm in Mandrake 9

the reason i still had to use Win2k is cuz my Digital VCR software doesn't work in WINE, and specially not in VMWare for linux 3.x plus all the goodies tools pack

so i was forced to keep win2k, cuz win98 was no good for recording, it worked but it was choppy, with lost frames and stuff.

and so far there has not been a port of the Gemstar Guide Plus that will work in Linux nor a good TV viewer that works with the latest TV tuner

the older tuner are supported by default.

i don't really need the Guide Plus, but is just handy

so the most annoying part is the TV tuner not working fully in Linux at the moment.

don't you think i want to go full linux and forget all this M$ owned world :D

BTW games most games works fine in Linux now

specially better if you can get WINE-X to work for you.

openGL games works without any tweaking

DirectX games works after some tweaking, but obviously not as good as they will work in Win98

with Wine-X it works better than plain Wine, but it still not smooth enough, or weird thing with the sounds

[BipolarBill]

Know why most experienced Linux users use the terminal window? It's because every single Linux shell is made for Martians and the GUIs are unusable. The only thing good about Linux is the kernel and the WinNT kernel is 95% as stable as it is.

Apple OSX is the only version of Unix that is usable for mere people.

Please send unused Windows CDs my way. :r

[her own pride]

Linux vs windows

not at the moment. It's more like "if you can get away with linux use that"

Windows has the market

NTFS seems to be less reliable. Technology is newer but FAT has been running for longer, therefor better understood

[rangeral]

If you want to use xp/2k then use them as fat32, 4mos now and I only caused one blue screen that xp choked on but again it was my fault otherwise not having any problems plus I used pm7 to set it all up from 98 and it is quite stable considering using fat32, not bad.

Although 98 is handling rogue squadron better than xp is which is why the dual-boot. Got one customer thinking about doing a dual-boot with 98 and xp as fat32 on a new machine he is planning on because of his old vid editing program.

[AllGamer]

Win2k/XP is not bad, they are the only 2 version of windows that is quite "reliable"

the problem with them is the way they handle files in use or that were in memory

like in my case a Suddent crashed, flied the OS partition of NTFS :rolleyes: , losing critical files such as USER.DAT AND SYSTEM.DAT !!!

it did run chkdsk fix as it will normally do, but that couldn't fix them, simply cuz they didn't get written back to the HDD fast enough before the RAM were gone.

in Linux there's always a failsafe, stuff are always written to a temp file before it replaces the original file

and can handle much more multitasking than the windows kernel can

in my case the crashes are due the large amount of software i run all at the same time

sometimes having a lot of rams, doesn't necessarely means you can do more stuff if the Kernel can't handle that much multitasking :D

anyways... yes now i have them all in FAT16 and FAT32, and if any **** happends i can at least relay on the old trusted tools that can recover files from the dead.

i thinking of porting my own version of those last 2 software that keeps me in the windoze world.

i wonder if Gemstar and ATI will release the source codes for them, so we Linux guys can make a port of them. :p

[rmanet]

Originally posted by AllGamer
Win2k/XP is not bad, they are the only 2 version of windows that is quite "reliable"in my case the crashes are due the large amount of software i run all at the same time

sometimes having a lot of rams, doesn't necessarely means you can do more stuff if the Kernel can't handle that much multitasking :D

anyways... yes now i have them all in FAT16 and FAT32, and if any **** happends i can at least relay on the old trusted tools that can recover files from the dead.

I agree on w2k, my stability with XP hasn't been the best, and I don't do much more than work-related stuff but Gamer, let's not forget your 160 gig partitions, dual boot systems, stretching virtual memory to the max, assigning your own IRQs (I still let xp and ME do mine, I'm not that dedicated), etc.

you ain't exactly a typical "user" :D

p.s. but at least you finally backed off from ntfs - I've never trusted going to a file system that's so hard to work with outside of good ol' FAT (I'll admit it, even use xtree from time to time)