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maorefulla
10-21-2002, 05:07 AM
DOS can not find any of my CD-ROMs, 'none' appears with the above message.
Current setting is: DVD-ROM as Sec Master, CD-Writer as Slave.

Nothing shows up in System Properties, or explorer. nor can MS-DOS detect D and E drives.

If I disconnect cable to the CD-Writer, it loads DVD-ROM ok, but the message still appears.

CD-Writer however will not load in this way when connected without DVD.

Have backed up expecting for the worst, reloaded windows and ide drivers etc. but it still fails to detect both drives at once.

Does anyone have any advice. Much appreciated!

Sterling_Aug
10-21-2002, 06:39 AM
You did not install the DOS drivers for the ATA-66/100/133 controller.

Move one of the CDROMs to the primary slave controller.

Psycho Logical
10-21-2002, 07:02 AM
"Primary IDE controller no 80 conductor cable installed"

This message is generated by the BIOS during POST, not by DOS.

Are you actually using an 80-conductor cable?

Is this a motherboard IDE port, or an IDE controller card?

Is the colored stripe correctly oriented with pin 1 at the IDE port and at each drive?

Are the drive jumpers correctly set?

Is the master drive at the end of the cable, with the slave attached to the middle connector?

chubtub
10-21-2002, 11:09 AM
To reirterate(<-- spelling): The blue connector (ide) has to go to the motherboard and the grey to the drive. I had the same problem for a bit until I figured it out. If your cables do not have a blue colored side you may have to go out and get an '80' cable, although it should run fine without one just a bit slower. I never really noticed a difference.

Melissa
10-21-2002, 11:50 AM
I'm having a similar problem. The BIOS shows my 2nd HDD, but windows doesn't recognize it. I get the "no 80 conductor cable installed" message during boot. However, the cable used works fine when I switch cables from HDD/HDD to CD/CD-RW. Any clues?

My 1st HDD is Western Digital 2.4Gb, trying to install 2nd HDD (Western Digital 20Gb), so I can transfer the data from smaller to larger HDD & use larger as primary when that's completed. The only thing I haven't tried is setting jumpers on HDDs to Cable Select. Would this help the situation?

BIOS shows larger HDD as Primary Slave, smaller as Primary Master, and the settings are correct (disk size, etc.) So I can't figure out why Windows won't detect. I need to format/partition the larger HDD, unless that's what's holding up the works...

HELP, please!! As you can tell, I'm not very well experienced in installing and configuring these things, but I'm too cheap to pay someone $75 for something that will take 5 minutes.

Thanks in advance!!

BipolarBill
10-21-2002, 12:15 PM
Melissa, please copy your post and paste it into a new thread - or sit tight and lurk. It's considered rude to crash another person's thread with your problem.

Optical drives don't require 80-conductor cables. Go to the store and buy one for your drive.

Melissa
10-21-2002, 12:31 PM
thanks! Sorry about that (slapping my hands).

maorefulla
10-23-2002, 03:37 AM
Thanks to all who have responded.

I cannot find the Dos Drivers ATA-66/100/133 that you speak of. I have a disc with a whole lot of drivers though, some of which are Bios (*.BIN) files listed under different folders with numbers on them, I don't know which one to use, I'm still trying to work that one out.

As for trying the CD-Writer as a Primary slave the cord is too short and cant fit. It is a 80pin conductor cable with an extra plug in the middle which was originally in the sec-slave CD-Writer drive, it connects to a motherboard IDE port, blue to the board, grey to the drive, Pin 1 at the right place.

I think I have eliminated the obvious connection issues, and think that it needs a new driver to be installed, but don't know which one and where to get it from.

Any other tips.

BipolarBill
10-23-2002, 10:29 AM
Back to basics:

1. Replace the cable. It may be bad.

2. The 80-conductor cable warning most likely does not refer to the optical drives. If it does, there's a serious issue with how BIOS is detecting them. In "Standard CMOS setup", be sure that both Master and Slave are set as "None" or CDROM not Auto. Otherwise, BIOS may see them as HDDs.

3. Be sure that the drives are jumpered properly. Remove them if you cannot see clearly and check.

4. Examine the pins on both drives and motherboard ports carefully. Look for bent or "pushed-in" pins.

maorefulla
10-30-2002, 08:04 PM
Have replaced plugs - but still the same
If only DVD-ROM is plugged in then the comp detects this, however if both drices are plugged in then it detects none of them.

CMOS setup reads none, so when comp boots up only drives that are detected show up.

I appreciate the help and hope that maybe someone can help me.

BipolarBill
10-30-2002, 08:45 PM
Could you please clarify that?Have replaced plugs What plugs?If only DVD-ROM is plugged in then the comp detects this, however if both drices are plugged in then it detects none of them. If the drive and DVD are on the same cable, this is understandable. You must set the primary master as Auto in standard CMOS setup. You still haven't told us what the brand of drive is. If it's Western Digital and the master on the cable, it needs the jumper set to master. If it's alone on the cable, remove the jumper.so when comp boots up only drives that are detected show up. Well, I hope so! :p

G Ray88
10-30-2002, 09:51 PM
Maorefullla, if your using the new 40-pin, 80-wire connector try setting the HD, CD-ROM to cable select. The blue connector should be connected to the MB, the black connector should be connected to the HD or what would be the Master, the gray connector in the middle should be connected to what would be the Slave. Good Luck:t

maorefulla
10-31-2002, 09:23 PM
Sorry...

The plugs I replaced was the 80-pin connector cable from the Secondary IDE port to my CD-ROM drives.

I reconfigured the 2 cd-rom drives, a Pioneer DVD-ROM drive - Secondary Master, attached to the middle plug of the 80-pin connector and a CD-Writer set as Seconday Slave, attached to the end.

Also, I have reset Primary Master to Auto, and Seconday M/S to none. This config. seemed to be liked better as now both drives are detected DVD as D drive, and CD Writer as E drive.

However the message Primary IDE controller no conductor cable installed still appears.

I have no idea why this is still appearing.




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