Win2k not defragging?

[bpan]

My question relates to defragmenting of NTFS volumes under Windows 2000 Pro.

I have 2 hard drives, #1 having partitions of 3GB and 12GB, #2 is one large partition of 32GB.

The 12GB partition seems to be a problem. It contains 56,000 files of varying sizes (most are <250kb) but there is still more than enough free space for a defrag (>5GB)

I have run defrag numerous times, but nothing changes. Each time the drive is "analyzed", it suggests defragmenting.

In one case (a 58MB avi) it reports the file has close to 2000 fragments!!!

What bothers me is that most of these files were copied directly from CDR onto the HD, and (in theory) SHOULDN'T BE FRAGMENTED AT ALL!!!

I guess what bothers me most is that even the available free space on the volume is highly fragmented.

I realize that NTFS volumes are organized and maintained quite differently from FAT volumes (I'm no spring chicken in this department) and that a certain amount of fragmentation is expected (desired?) with NTFS... but fragmentation to the extent I'm seeing (and uncorrectable) is doing nothing but slowing me down.

Any idea what I must do to FORCE defrag to do its job?

Thanks,
bpan

[Sterling_Aug]

Try upgrading to a real defrag program. The one included with Win2K is a "lite" version.

[muchmark]

The first thing I would try is to run defrag in safe mode and see what happen.

[bpan]

Try upgrading to a real defrag program. The one included with Win2K is a "lite" version.
<AHEM> This IS a real defrag program, the utility provided WITH the operating system.

The first thing I would try is to run defrag in safe mode and see what happen
HINT: The subject line clearly states this is WINDOWS 2000.


Any useful suggestions?

Brian

[wizard101uk]

I've kind of got the same problem.
Defrag the drive, reboot and analyze the drive.
And again it recommends to defrag..WTF.
Some out there Knows, I know there is.
:r :t :D

[Ryan S]

Originally posted by bpan
Try upgrading to a real defrag program. The one included with Win2K is a "lite" version.
<AHEM> This IS a real defrag program, the utility provided WITH the operating system.

The first thing I would try is to run defrag in safe mode and see what happen
HINT: The subject line clearly states this is WINDOWS 2000.


Any useful suggestions?

Brian

Have you actually tried either of those suggestions, because they are both valid. It sounds like you are dismissing the first one (which is silly) and believe that Win2k doesn't have a safe mode (which it does).

http://www.oo-software.com/ has a defrag program (both a free version and a trial version of a "professional" version) that is different than the simple (i.e. no options) one provided with Win2k.

[england001]

`What bothers me is that most of these files were copied directly from CDR onto the HD, and (in theory) SHOULDN'T BE FRAGMENTED AT ALL!!!`
You need to learn a little bit more about hard drives !!

[ooops]

Let's all relax........remember this is a HELP forum............. I've had some severly "fragmented" Win 2000 drives before, and even using Diskeeper I needed to defrag them daily until finally they got to a decent level.....one defrag in W2k will not always completely cure it. :t

[Bigjakkstaffa]

The first thing I would try is to run defrag in safe mode and see what happen

HINT: The subject line clearly states this is WINDOWS 2000.

Whats your point??

Windows 2k has safe mode, as do all windows OS's :rolleyes:

Try it in safe mode, unplug CABLE modem or DSL (ie permanant internet connection) and disable screensavers.

--And please, try and remain polite...

--Jakk:t

[Bigjakkstaffa]

BTW to access safe mode in 2k, press F8 at the black//white bars screen at boot, and select safe mode from the list...

--Jakk:t

[Easy]

thinking aloud really... (and - hopefully - learning a bit more in the process myself...)

If bpan doesn't want to try other defrag programs (or running defrag while 2k is in safe mode) is it worth moving the "awkward" (eg, 2000 fragments) files to the other drive, then defragging one drive, moving back, defragging again, etc...?

Easy