Do some xp2000+ run hotter?

[darrenw1967]

I am running a xp2000+ on an Asus a7v333 with an artic cooling 2500 fan which is rated to XP2300+ palamino or 2600+ throughbread but at 133 mhz my board reached 75oC and at present i am running my it at 100 mhz fsb to keep the temp low ( still in the mid 60's.
I have applied a/s paste( not to little & not to much) the heatsink is sitting correctly, I have a fan sucking in the front & one blowing out the back, i am at the stage where i dump the processor & buy a xp2400+ and hope the new core runs cooler.

any ideas?:confused: :confused: :confused:

[jmichna]

From the AMD tech docs, the Model 6 (0.18um) XP2000+ puts out 70.0W max and 62.5W typical usage (1.75vcore). The Model 8 XP2200 (on 266mHz bus) puts out 67.9W max, 61.7W typical (1.65 vcore), while the 2700+ (on 333mHz bus) puts out 68.3W max, 62.0W typical at 1.65 vcore.

Here's the links to the docs, just look for the "Thermal Properties" sections:
Model 6 Doc (http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/24309.pdf)

Model 8 Doc (http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/25175.pdf)

Ignoring everything I've typed aboce, your temps seem way out of line... is your cpu fan running... is your cpu fan blowing DOWN onto the heat sink? Some thing is definitely wrong....

Good luck,
jmichna

[-GzA-]

hmm... you'll have to be carefull about the way you've set up those fans.
look at them and think hard about what each fan is doin to the others cooling capacities.
sometimes if u have a fan just a little bit out of line... or a fan sucking air in faster than the other is pushing air out, then your gonna get a build up of preassure in the box wich can cause the cpu fan to struggle a bit under the stress.
if your box looks like its a little too airtight for your liking you can, as a precaution, just use a drill to drill a nice grid of holes somewhere in the box to let any additional preassure out if need be.
cant hurt to try.

[Karifan]

Better yet, take the board out, hook it up to the power supply and hook up the video card and only necessary components and the monitor, let it run in bios mode under power options or any similar option to monitor temps.

Tell us what the temps are outside of the box. Maybe we can help you out more.

I just fixed an issue with a corrupt video card driver that had an endless loop in the code. Trust me a nasty experience, It caused my temps to go beyond 54 ° celcius.
With the new drivers and proper installation of the components, temps are now around 38-43 on idle and 45-48 on max.

[Giblet Plus!]

my xp2000 = 40C load with my Thermal Integration V77L :)

[darrenw1967]

Originally posted by -GzA-
hmm... you'll have to be carefull about the way you've set up those fans.
look at them and think hard about what each fan is doin to the others cooling capacities.
sometimes if u have a fan just a little bit out of line... or a fan sucking air in faster than the other is pushing air out, then your gonna get a build up of preassure in the box wich can cause the cpu fan to struggle a bit under the stress.
if your box looks like its a little too airtight for your liking you can, as a precaution, just use a drill to drill a nice grid of holes somewhere in the box to let any additional preassure out if need be.
cant hurt to try.

All fans running correctly & i have removed 2 drive bay covers so i have a 5 1/2 x 4 hole in the front of my case so i don't think its unequal pressure inside the case, plaese note i have been building pc's since the p75 was the top line processor so i can assure you that it is not any of the usual newbe problems!

I have also tried a coolermaster hcc 001 heat pipe temps still in the high 60's

[strat1]

I have XP2000 with Volcano 9 that idles as cool as 27C (with PC cooler software running on a cool day) and reaches temps of 45C on a warm day at Full bore!

The 1st two things I would double check. are;
What is your CPU Voltage and Where are you reading your temps from

[AllGamer]

I have a Stock Retail version of the AMD XP 2000+ with their Blue HSF

and the average iddle temp is 50c

and the average full temp is 60c

[Logan[TeamX]]

Yup, you've got some serious heat transfer issues there, maybe air bubbles or whatnot between the CPU / thermal compound / heatsink.

I've O/Ced my 1800 + to a 2000 + (1667MHz from 1533MHz), and I idle anywhere from 40C to 44C, and full-rip from 44-49C, depending on ambient temps.

Check it all out step-by-step.

Logan

[darrenw1967]

I have added 3 extra exhaust fans (all low noise) and 1 more inlet with 2 8 cm internal circulation fans no extra noise but idle temp now 51oC and full load now 62oC at 133 fsb guess this is the best I can expect:rolleyes:

[causticVapor]

Originally posted by darrenw1967
I have added 3 extra exhaust fans (all low noise) and 1 more inlet with 2 8 cm internal circulation fans no extra noise but idle temp now 51oC and full load now 62oC at 133 fsb guess this is the best I can expect:rolleyes:

What monitoring program are you using? Some BIOS versions misreport temperature readings that are either too high or too low... an issue with some Asus mobos.. deja vu...

When the CPU is at "70Deg C" can you touch the heatsink for more than two seconds without burning yourself? If the heatsink isn't that warm but there is very hot air underneath where the CPU core is then you've got a transfer problem, and it doesn't matter HOW much you ventilate your case.

I doubt the problem is pressure with the ventilation you've got. Most cases these days have slits to compensate. Trust me, I have an 1800+ with only one exhaust fan and idle temps are 48C with maxload being 53.5C. This is with a hot GF4 Ti card and 7200 RPM HDD. And all in a midtower to top that!

You may want to check out the other users' suggestions, such as the core voltage (can cause a huge amount of heat if too high) and try reapplying the thermal compound again to remove any air bubbles. I know this sounds stupid but is the heatsink installed correctly? Sometimes the pads on the CPU wear out and the heatsink leans off to the side, not coming into direct contact with the core. :eek: (This could happen with the lever as well.) This seems to be what is happening, andif it is you could very well be soon in the business of getting a new CPU. :eek:

Keep your setup. It is good.

But trust me, with all that ventilation, temps should be much lower than that.



Go into task manager (if you have NT, 2000 or XP) and the performance tab. Is the CPU idle load at 50-100% constantly? Also, 2000 and XP have built-in software cooling, and this might be accidentally disabled; I don't know how.

[darrenw1967]

Temps are in bios, sisoft sandra & hardware monitor all 3 agree to within 1-2 oC

Fan lever good & fan brand new, same with the Cooler master HHC001 thermal compound checked twice & ok ( tried a xp1900+ in the same set up and ran cooler @40oC idle & 50oC load

Voltage set to auto in bios and running at 1.78 volts.