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socalgal
07-31-1999, 01:50 PM
Yay Roy! http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

Yes all hackers needed for this important project!

AuraEdge
07-31-1999, 05:53 PM
I got 2 friends that ditched the P3 450 for the cel's..not cuz of price, but cuz of the serial numbers. Now wit the UTICA thing goin, im not touchin a P3

Dominus
07-31-1999, 07:55 PM
But do the Celeron's have PSNs as well?

I know the Cel 500 does.

Not sure about the rest. Also, all mobile PIIs have PSNs as well, so notebook owners beware.

Roy
08-01-1999, 12:35 AM
Before the Media corrupted the meaning, a Hacker was a dyed in the wool computer enthusiast who would spend long hours hacking away at the keyboard. Learning and understanding the core of the system was the goal. Now I guess we call them Programmers, altough Hackers knew about writing efficient code for limited space environments.

We need a utility that will report if the Processor Serial Number is available after the Operating System has finished loading.

This will reveal if the BIOS "Disable PSN" is effective.

Also, since the BIOS scans for keyboard input (enter Setup, reset Defaults, etc.) could it be possible for an invader to mimic KB input and change things in the BIOS? Certainly "Chernobyl" gets in there somehow, somewhen.

[This message has been edited by Roy (edited 07-31-99).]

AuraEdge
08-01-1999, 12:42 AM
CEL 500 HAS PSN!??!?
whered u hear this!?!?
...Your kiddin me right?
Please say your kidding.
PSN must STAY AWAY FROM CELERON or i will never buy Intel again!!
Intels lil 'make shtuff easier' plan aint workin...its scaring people away, and it should. Im pretty sure there hasnt been one adamant praise of the PSN...and MANY MANY complants...if they cant listen to thier consumers now, what are they thinking??!

smokin1
08-01-1999, 01:04 AM
just a sec.. i'll send a link to check that but there are other considerations
go to http://privacy.net/analyze/
and see how badly you leak info as it is
BRB
http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

socalgal
08-01-1999, 02:46 AM
This just keeps getting better and better!!

Thanks for the info smokin1 http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

KillerBug
08-01-1999, 11:33 PM
Holly s**t! As soon as I get some cash, Intel is out, with new celerons having the #, P3s having the #, even new P2s having the #, time to go to AMD. Does ABIT make Slot A boards?

Dominus
08-01-1999, 11:56 PM
As of now, only AsusTech, Biostar, FIC, Microstar, and Gigabyte are licenced to male Slot-A boards.

But the Athlon will soon be released in Slot-B format as well, which is compatable with the new 750 MHz, 1 Ghz and 1,5 ghz ALPHAs as well, which rocks. This means that you'll be able to run an Alpha with normal hardware & with cheap RAM, and still be able to run Linux on it.

Can't wait until I have a nice, clean ALPHA @ 1500 mhz (just imagine overclocking it!!!), and all without the dreaded PSN, and UCITA.

Keep an eye out for more WIntel alternatives!

Roy
08-02-1999, 12:01 AM
Pardon me, Killerbug and Dominus. You're off topic. Perhaps email is a better connection for your concerns.

Joel Kleppinger
08-02-1999, 12:28 AM
Agreed. Or at least start a new thread for it.