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bubbleflap
09-25-2002, 01:08 PM
I am very curious.. how easy is it to crack an athlon core? Or take a little chip out of it? The corners seem extremely easy to chip off, how tough are they (eg strength, and resistance to alcohol), and WHAT ARE THEY MADE OF? :t
Thanks for the help guys and gals.. :-)
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Bigjakkstaffa
09-25-2002, 01:25 PM
Teh Tbirds are notorious, its due to the lack of anty real shielding, i think this isuue is being adressed in future AMD Proc's
--Jakk:t
Nukes
09-25-2002, 03:11 PM
Never happened to me, and I am the worst at putting heatsinks on, especially big, heavy ones. I worked as a tech (Building/programming/repairing) for a few years, only ever doing new builds with amd chips. Built a hell'oa lotta systems and they all fired up.
What I mean is: It isn't as easy as some would have you believe
AllGamer
09-25-2002, 04:47 PM
LOL :r
well besides heat
you can crack it up with a Sledge Hammer :x
Nukes
09-25-2002, 04:57 PM
You could if you trued, but it doesn't happen unless you did something wrong or the HSF is unsuitable
Bigjakkstaffa
09-25-2002, 05:27 PM
Yeah - in my experience as long as you dont drop em, throw em about or pelt em repeatedly with the HSF you shouldnt have trouble... if your a bit cack handed though, take care ;)
--Jakk:t
Dave Myers
09-25-2002, 06:41 PM
Max dead load= 25psi
Max live load= 30psi
Snow load= 30psi
JK.
I have no idea. Buy a HSF designed for socket A, install it like they show you on the AMD website, and you are good to go. I am not so gentle with mine, and I still haven't broken one yet.
Good luck
D
absalom
09-25-2002, 07:04 PM
From AMD-the specified
tolerances for a heat sink clip to apply pressure to the die is between
16-24 lbs, with a maximum heat sink mass of 300g.
gibsinep
09-25-2002, 08:02 PM
People that break CPU are just plain rushing or not up to the job if you ask me. I mean I have done everything wrong in the book to a CPU and it keeps chugging. It isnt that easy to do really. What is it with some people and fat heavy fingers? :p
Dave Myers
09-25-2002, 08:06 PM
Gib, I just figured out what you name means.
eguhkcoc just doesn't sound right eh?
:D
absalom
09-25-2002, 08:09 PM
Are you referring to Barney Rubble fingers in the FLINSTONES LOL. I would have to agree rushing into something you are not familiar with is doom for disaster when in Doubt Amd has spec sheets and also videos of how to's here is the spec sheet http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/con..._docs/26003.pdf
gibsinep
09-25-2002, 08:15 PM
Dave Myers- lol
:p :D
Yep I am refering to the Barney Rubble fingres. :D
OpK Chowdy
09-26-2002, 01:29 AM
on my first system i built i used all my might to get the clip down with a screw driver..didn't crack my 900 duron. i have a tbird now and i have a nifty clip instead of screw driver hook thing.
Dave Myers
09-26-2002, 12:46 PM
I swear I almost pierce my mainboard with the screw driver slips out of the little slot on one of those HSF. I guess I just don't have the "Touch" to do it right yet.:p
Barney Rubble fingers, I guess that's me.
bubbleflap
09-26-2002, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Dave Myers
I swear I almost pierce my mainboard with the screw driver slips out of the little slot on one of those HSF. I guess I just don't have the "Touch" to do it right yet.:p
Barney Rubble fingers, I guess that's me.
How far under the die is the actual core?
Dave Myers
09-26-2002, 01:54 PM
micrometers. The die is the outer layer of the core. Correct me if I am wrong.
I wouldn't worry about doing it. If you break out a mallet and slam it down on the core, it will break. If you just follow the directions on the AMD website, no problem mon.
Bigjakkstaffa
09-26-2002, 02:01 PM
Yeah its not a very large gap, i took a chip of oooh say 0.25 mm out of the core once, and the cpu ended up being partially defective :(
--Jakk:t
bubbleflap
09-26-2002, 02:50 PM
What about if you chip the corners off?
Bigjakkstaffa
09-26-2002, 02:55 PM
Thats what i did -- to put it simply - dont do it...
--Jakk:t
gibsinep
09-26-2002, 04:10 PM
lol just dont chip anything.
Alex Iannuzzi
09-26-2002, 08:27 PM
Most of todays copper heatsinks are heavy and are over 300 grams, how come they don't break the core??????
Dave Myers
09-26-2002, 08:34 PM
the 4 little pads around the core offer resistance to the weight of the cooler.
absalom
09-26-2002, 08:37 PM
ALEX you also have to remember that most aftermarket heatsinks that are not AMD approved or out of spec the manufacturer of that heatsink will not bear any responsibility if YOU (customer) cracks the core.
Alex Iannuzzi
09-26-2002, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by absalom
ALEX you also have to remember that most aftermarket heatsinks that are not AMD approved or out of spec the manufacturer of that heatsink will not bear any responsibility if YOU (customer) cracks the core.
I just have the Standard AMD Heatsink and Fan. If i'm every going to get a copper heatsink I will look to see if it is AMD approved.
Dave Myers
09-26-2002, 09:06 PM
I just read my 1800+ warranty.
"This Limited Warranty shall be null and void if the AMD microprocessor which is the sybject of this Limited Warranty is used with any heatsink/fan other than the one provided herewith"
That's lawerspeak for it doesn't matter what you use, if it isn't the crappy HSF that comes with the retail XP, it isn't Kosher with AMD. There are no aftermarket HSF that are AMD approved, only PS:r
Grentarc
09-28-2002, 02:21 AM
There are HSF's that are recomended by AMD.
go here->
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348^4356,00.html this is a list of them
Jimstep
09-28-2002, 11:55 AM
I've used alcohol to clean the top of cpu before applying thermo paste. No problems.
bubbleflap
09-28-2002, 12:12 PM
Oh hamster, where art thou?
mcool61
09-28-2002, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by Nukes
Never happened to me, and I am the worst at putting heatsinks on, especially big, heavy ones. I worked as a tech (Building/programming/repairing) for a few years, only ever doing new builds with amd chips. Built a hell'oa lotta systems and they all fired up.
What I mean is: It isn't as easy as some would have you believe
Did ya use any of them thar shimms their allways trying to sell ya?
Giblet Plus!
09-28-2002, 03:12 PM
My Thermal Integration V77L uses a lever thingy to do the clamping action instead of a screwdriver.
Really, how do you crack a core? You have to be a real klutz. :p
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