GForce4 problems

[Shaii]

Hey,
I have recently got a Chaintech GF4 Speical Edition (GT21) 128mb. My system is rather old but very stable:
Amd Athelon (clasic) 650 oc to 750
MB Gigabyte GA-7VX

I installed the latest drivers from VIA (via 133 chipset), and from NVIDIA.

But still the problem is that games hang. Even games that before on my TNT worked fine are now hanging...

Help...

[Beeblequix]

are you using the 40.41 detonator 4's? I've found them to be very unstable. Use 29.42 or 30.82 drivers.

Also, underclock your comp back to default settings. Boot back up and see if you're now experiencing instability due to oc'ing.

ßeeßle Qµix

[AllGamer]

Shaii, are you OC anything at all?

[Shaii]

About OC.

My CPU is overclocked from 650 to 750.

this was working fine with my Riva TNT Card

when I changed to the GF4 I didn't touch the OC since I thought it would work good as well.

Beeblequix, I didn't quite understand the "40.41 detonator 4's"

is this the Nvidia drivers?

10x
Shai

[absalom]

yes Graphic drivers for your nvidia card

[Shaii]

In some games I can choose the OpenGL driver,
currntly on my system I see only one (default driver)

do I need to download a new one?

what about " use hardwear T&L?"
what is this?

should I use this feature while playing games?

[Beeblequix]

Do use Hardware Transform & Lighting whenever you can, otherwise the cpu takes on the T&L responsibilities.

The Nvidia Detonator 40.41 are the new Detonator 4 drivers. They were released quite recently.

Regardless of whether your old Riva TNT worked okay, just return to default speeds. When you've run at default settings and you're still crashing/hanging, then you can remove that one from the list.

Also, your memory might be either bad, or having trouble at oc'ed speeds. What are your timings? Your DIMMs might only be rated at 133Mhz CAS 3. In your bios you'd do yourself a small favor by running at the "by SPD" setting. Again, this just removes the doubt.

The DIMM might also be bad. Many problems with hanging/freezing is due to bad memory. Find a memory checker to make sure they're working properly.

It's possible that you're not getting the power you need to the card, after all, this new card of yours NEEDS POWER. What is the rating of your power supply in WATTS? Do you have the voltage set right? Do you have the bios setting at 4X?

Check into these, and return and report.

B.Quix

[Shaii]

Hey ALL,
thanx so much 4 your help!

I have returned they system to normal configuration

6.5multi x 100 = 650

and all is working perfectly!!!

I am using the 40.41 ndivia drivers.

About some answers:
- bios I do have the AGP at x4.

I didn't quite get the: "Your DIMMs might only be rated at 133Mhz CAS 3. In your bios you'd do yourself a small favor by running at the "by SPD"

how can I know the rate of my dimms?
and what is " by SPD"

I am listing bolow
The system bus speed is selectable at 100 ~143MHz. The user can select the system bus speed by DIP switch SW4 .
Set System Bus Speed SW4: O : ON, X :OFF
taken from : http://ftp.gigabyte.com.tw/support/user_pdf/7vx_10_2.pdf

4 3 2 1 CPU PCI Spectrum
X X X X 133.3 33.3 5%
O X X X 100.2 33.3 5%
X O X O 110 36.7 X
O X X O 115 38.3 X used to get to 750
O O X O 120 30 X
X X O X 133.3 33.3 X
O X O X 100.2 33.3 X Original
X X O O 124 31 X
X O O O 129 32.3 X
O X O O 138 34.5 X
O O O O 143 35.8 X

and the last 2 things in my bios
AGP Comp. Driving
what is this??? I have it set to Auto

since I have a 128 mb card should I use the 128?
I think I still have it to 64
· AGP Aperture Size
4MB Set AGP Aperture Size to 4MB.
8MB Set AGP Aperture Size to 8 MB.
16MB Set AGP Aperture Size to 16 MB.
32MB Set AGP Aperture Size to 32 MB.
64MB Set AGP Aperture Size to 64 MB. (Default Value)
128MB Set AGP Aperture Size to 128 MB.
256MB Set AGP Aperture Size to 256 MB.


10x sooo much
Shai

[Beeblequix]

I'm glad you resolved that problem.

Now, onto these new ones...

This statement "Your DIMMs might only be rated at 133Mhz CAS 3. In your bios you'd do yourself a small favor by running at the "by SPD" means that you need to run your memory at the speed it's rated at. "By SPD" means there's a little sensor probe which detects the timings it's rated at, hence SPD. If in your bios you have the ability to change CAS, CAS to RAS, and RAS you can manually overclock these settings, or let the DIMM's onboard sensor tell the bios what it's intended for.

Now, you're running cpu & memory asynchronously. Your cpu runs at 200 Mhz (2*100), your mobo can handle PC-133 memory. The way to check what your DIMM is, is simply to look at the actual DIMM. You should see it say pc100 cas2, pc100 cas3, pc133 cas2, etc. right there on the dimm.

"and the last 2 things in my bios
AGP Comp. Driving
what is this??? I have it set to Auto"
When in doubt leave it at AUTO.

"since I have a 128 mb card should I use the 128?
I think I still have it to 64
· AGP Aperture Size
4MB Set AGP Aperture Size to 4MB.
8MB Set AGP Aperture Size to 8 MB.
16MB Set AGP Aperture Size to 16 MB.
32MB Set AGP Aperture Size to 32 MB.
64MB Set AGP Aperture Size to 64 MB. (Default Value)
128MB Set AGP Aperture Size to 128 MB.
256MB Set AGP Aperture Size to 256 MB."

This is a good question. The AGP aperture has little to do with your video card. This is the amount of system memory you're setting aside for a secondary area for video data apart from the video card's own memory. Rule of thumb says to take your system memory, divide by two and add 12 Meg. That's the number you should set your aperture to. Just get as close as you can. Usually 64 is a good number, but it doesn't hurt to do more.

ßeeßle Qµix