Cooling Software

[trouble]

Tried CpuIdle 5.9 the other day and it lowered idle temp from 43C down to 32C.

Anyone use this type of software?If so which one would you recommend??

cheers :t

[JonathanB]

I used RAIN in my Win98SE before but I uninstalled it. These works only when the CPU is idle. If the CPU is busy, these software coolers are useless... and to me (although there are differing opinions here), it adds more strain to PC resources because it has to run in the background waiting for the CPU to take a rest.:)

[BFlurie]

it adds more strain to PC resources because it has to run in the background waiting for the CPU to take a rest

Resources used by a simple halt command program are negligible -- unless the prog has alot of extra "junk". All high-end OSs issue the halt command by default (NT-core, Linux, etc), so it's obviously worth it. 'Course, no one suggests it's a substitute for a proper HS/fan.

[strat1]

I have been using the PC Cooler which was included with my MSI KT3 MB and it works great!

But How actually does it work- ?

[AllGamer]

Originally posted by trouble
Tried CpuIdle 5.9 the other day and it lowered idle temp from 43C down to 32C.

Anyone use this type of software?If so which one would you recommend??

cheers :t

Yes CPU idle is the best
but only good for Win9x machines
Win2k/NT/XP already has that feature build int :t

[trouble]

Course, no one suggests it's a substitute for a proper HS/fan.

Yes goes without saying however anything that can reduce the temp as much as this software has must be a good thing.

I've tried everything as far as extra fans,proper airflow etc and only ever reduced temps by a degree or 3 so to reduce it albiet only on idle by 11C is nothing to be sneezed at.

:t

[AllGamer]

correct with this running, my 9x PCs doesn't crash anymore

before my old P2/P3 was crashing constanly if not running CPU Iddle

so it was definitely a heat problem
ironically as you said, more FANs did not help

LOL :D

[strat1]

If XP comes with it- where are the settings and controls?

There is a huge diff when I run the CPU Cooler in my temp!

Thanks

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Vcool is pretty good, but XP and 2k have their ownidle processes, and as such you'll see no gain from usign them.. .theyre alsoi no good for gaming as there arent too many idle cycles availiable then... Vcools worth a look if you can get the Coolbit working stable though :)

--Jakk:t

[strat1]

I have XP and the Results are great!

5-10C degree drop all the time!!

[AllGamer]

it's just overkill in my opinion :t

[trouble]

Cheers Jak I will take a looky at Vcool. :t

Better to be safe than sorry(wonder where I heard that before?) eh AG?? :p it's just overkill in my opinion

[rangeral]

Vcool does work well with my 1800xp and XP pro but you have to grab previous version then update with beta version to kick it in on my machine anyway. Temps were quite high around 50c now I'm down to 36c for internet use, doesn't hurt when I use MOH, used it previously for 98 with a 1.3 thru gaming and anything and worked fine then site or updates stopped for xp and new mobo's but glad there back again with my shuttle ak35gtr,

[strat1]

I am not trying to belabor the point here or be a wise *****, but how is it an overkill if it lowers the temp by close to 10 C? :confused:

[rangeral]

I don't think its overkill when temps read better than the ms idler believe back to 98, plus noticing less problems with less heat for mild use such as the internet.

Remember amd runs hotter than intel but only because of the lack of thermal protection to keep the price of the cpu down, so a little help from cpuidle or vcool goes a long way towards helping the situation especially for free thus helping keep the price down as an additive.

[BFlurie]

Such programs are certainly worthwhile. Yes, of course, the greatest threat to a CPU is the peak temps -- got to deal w/that w/HS, fans, case air-flow, etc. But cumulative heat also "ages" the CPU slowly, and there is alittle heat-storage in the CPU/case where a cooling program might briefly keep peak CPU temps down alittle.

AFA cooling programs for NT-core OSs, I think they might help alittle by issuing the halt command quicker than the default OSs kernel programming -- but not sure.

[AllGamer]

Originally posted by strat1
I am not trying to belabor the point here or be a wise *****, but how is it an overkill if it lowers the temp by close to 10 C? :confused:

ok, i said overkill not in reference for the Cooling part, but for the waste of extra resources.

i just like to keep my system the leanest and cleanest possible

[rangeral]

AG I know your cheap on cycles and ram but these are small footprint utilities, spend a little.:)

[OpK Chowdy]

i used cpuidle i think and it lowered my 1.4ghz Athlon Tbird LOWER than my case temp. weird. i didn't think it was possible.

cpu was 33C, case was 34. :eek: :confused: :eek: :confused:

[the xenon]

http://vcool.occludo.net/VCool.html

try VCOOL it does better then any other cooling prog and does not weight all that much

[AllGamer]

i heard VCool is better for the Athlon than the rest, has anyone tried to see if that's real or not?

[trouble]

I compared the two one after the other so the conditions were the same.

CpuIdle v5.9 did better on my 1800xp. Temps went down from 43 to 32C.

With VCool v1.8b only got temp down to 34c.

Personally I prefer CpuIdle over VCool seems to me to be a better programme,unfortunately its not freeware but you can get a 30 day trial version. :t

[AllGamer]

VCool is free
you can keep Vcool for 2c higher :D

[trouble]

Yeah I know its only 2C and that aint much but I much prefer CpuIdle to me it seems like a better prog :t

[BFlurie]

I run an old version, CPUIdle 3.0 (1997) -- freeware. It has command-line options to remove the taskbar icon/program & leave only a miniscule .vxd file issuing the halt command. Hmm, I'd have to set up FTP space on my new ISP to make it available -- haven't got around to it yet. A google search for "CPUidle 3.0" might fish it out somewhere.

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Sorry, ver 3.0 is only for W9X. For hiding, the command line in the shortcut in the Startup folder should be:

path/cpuidle.exe -hide

[AllGamer]

cool, i'll look for that :t thanks :D

[omega31]

Cool. Got CPUIdle 3.0 here:
http://click.alltheweb.com/go2/2/atw/1c7528CE30/MSxILGZ0cA/ftp/ftp.hh.schule.de/pub/ct/cpuidle3.zip

and here:
ftp://ftp.mpoli.fi/pub/software/WIN32/UTILS/MISC/CPUIDLE3.ZIP

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Neither ersion works for me :(

keep getting invalid .vdx errors...

--Jakk:t

[AllGamer]

the PRO version works in XP/2K
so that's why it doesn't work for you
the normal version on the links is only for 98/ME

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Tnx AG :)

I tied the bat version 6 actually and it crashed my machine :(

--Jakk:t

[AllGamer]

just forget it
you have XP
there's no need for that
XP already does that job
that's what the
"System Idle Process" is for:t

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Yeah i know just outta interest thats all....

...i use Vcool - not because it lower my temps - it doesnt - but its a good system temp monitor tool :D

--Jakk:t

[AllGamer]

Originally posted by Bigjakkstaffa
Tnx AG :)

I tied the bat version 6 actually and it crashed my machine :(

--Jakk:t

Ok i've been playing around with some of these, and it's working fine in my system

and all i can say is WOW, the Temp goes down by at least 25c in my system :x

now $20/30 bucks is way worth the money:p
very good specially if i have to leave the computer on on a hot day, and i'm not at home :D

[strat1]

Yes it is weird how it well it works--

Drops my temps to the hight 20's when i am surfing or when idle.

[embj]

Will any of these cooling programs work with a mobo that doesn't have any temp sensors on it??? In case your wondering, I am talking about my old Celeron. I am just curious because it is inside of an old hardwood desk and it is very hot in there.

Also, what prog. would work good with an P4 1.6ghz that is in another old desk???
I'm worried about it because in the BIOS on startup it says it is 95°F.:eek:

[rangeral]

With vcool you have to check what chipsets are supported.

I'm using vcool and it works better than the ms idler previously temps on a shuttle ak35gtr with 1800xp was around 45 to 50c now with vcool its 34c for cpu and 38c for system thats a vast improvement over what xp has and doesn't interfere with XP. So for free you can't beat it.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Rangeral, is that using the idle loop or not??

--jakk:t

[rangeral]

No its disabled and coolbit is enabled.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Hmmn, just on my win 2k with just coolbit theres no real difference, idle loop crashes after about 30 secs... i guess i'll never know - still its a good temp monitor :)

--Jakk:t

[rangeral]

Remove it and d/l the 1.7 then get the 1.8 beta and replace the 1.7 executable with the 1.8 see what happens.

[embj]

VCool won't work on my P4 only Athlon & Duron are supported on certain chipsets. VCool didn't work at all on my Athlon. My Athlon has the KT133 chipset. I just downloaded it to see if it would work. It didn't lower the temp at all!!! I really don't need it anyway. My temps are around 69°F with all the stock fans that HP (I hate HP) puts in it. I just need one for my P4 cause it is hot.:cool: