What's a resonable temperature for XP1900? Is mine too hot?

[gtr]

I've ordered thermoright ax7 and it'll be here tuesday. My question is what is a resonable temperature to run at with the athlon XP's?.

From sandra my cpu temp is 130F/54.5c. I put the smaller fan i've ordered for my thermoright sk6. It doesnt work nearly as well as my larger turbine fan. The turbine delta fan was just too loud for home use and now i'm running hotter and no O.C.:(.

When i leave the case closed the temp goes to 138F, so i'm leaving it open till my new case comes in with my fan.

My question is what is

1. meltdown/damaged cpu temperature.

2. normal operating temps for the new xp cpu's.

3. Normal operating temp for P4's?

[jmichna]

Many people run their XP+s at temps approaching 60°C when under 100% cpu output, but your goal should be to get this temp as low as you reasonably can. Are the temps you are reporting at (near) idle or are you running something like Seti@Home which utilizes 100% of your cpu cycles?

Personally, I start to get really concerned when temps get above 55°C (summer/warm room, A/C not on) but as long as I don't get BSODs or lockups, no problem.

Ideally, I'd like to be below 50°C when running flat out. AMD says the cpu will take 90°C before permanent damage, but you will almost always experience BSOD or lockup way before that point. Problems usually begin right around that 55-60°C range.

I'm running an XP2100+ OC'ed to 1807mHz (139mHx FSB). I used to use an SK6/Black Delta 7K screamer but changes to an AX7/Sunon 80mm (3900rpm/50cfm) because the 7K noise drove me nuts. I found that the AX7/Sunon gave me about 2-3°C better cooling than the SK6/Delta.

It is 67°F (approx 20°C) right now where I live, and A/C is off. My room is a bit warmer than 20°C, maybe 22-23°C. My mobo (case) temp is at 29°C and my cpu (running 100% output/Seti@Home command line client) is at 47°C. I'm satisfied with these temps.

My wifes P4 1.6A OC'ed to 2.134gHz runs at about 40°C (stock Retail HS/F) at 100% cpu output (Seti@home).
jmichna

[absalom]

Originally posted by gtr
I've ordered thermoright ax7 and it'll be here tuesday. My question is what is a resonable temperature to run at with the athlon XP's?.

From sandra my cpu temp is 130F/54.5c. I put the smaller fan i've ordered for my thermoright sk6. It doesnt work nearly as well as my larger turbine fan. The turbine delta fan was just too loud for home use and now i'm running hotter and no O.C.:(.

When i leave the case closed the temp goes to 138F, so i'm leaving it open till my new case comes in with my fan.

My question is what is

1. meltdown/damaged cpu temperature.

2. normal operating temps for the new xp cpu's.

3. Normal operating temp for P4's?




OPN Example for AMD Athlon XP Model 6 Processor ("Palomino") A X 2100 D M T 3 C
A Family/Architecture: A=AMD Athlon¢â Family Processor Architecture
X Generation: X=High-Performance Desktop Processor (AMD Athlon¢â XP Processor)
2100 Model Number:
¡Ü 1500 operates at 1333MHz
¡Ü 1600 operates at 1400MHz
¡Ü 1700 operates at 1467MHz
¡Ü 1800 operates at 1533MHz
¡Ü 1900 operates at 1600 MHz
¡Ü 2000 operates at 1667 MHz
¡Ü 2100 operates at 1733 MHz
D Package Type: D=OPGA
M Operating Voltage: M=1.75V
T Die Temperature: T=90 Degrees Celsius
3 Size of L2 Cache: 3=256Kbytes
C Max FSB: C=266MHz


OPN Example for AMD Athlon XP Model 8 Processor ("Thoroughbred") AXD A 2200 D K V 3 C
AXD Architecture Segment: AXD=AMD Athlon¢â XP Processor Model 8
A Maximum Power: A=Desktop Processor
2200 Model Number:
¡Ü 1700 operates at 1467MHz
¡Ü 1800 operates at 1533MHz
¡Ü 1900 operates at 1600 MHz
¡Ü 2000 operates at 1667 MHz
¡Ü 2100 operates at 1733 MHz
¡Ü 2200 operates at 1800 MHz
D Package Type: D=OPGA
K Operating Voltage: L=1.50V, U=1.60V, K=1.65V
V Die Temperature: T=90 Degrees Celsius, V=85 Degrees Celsius
3 Size of L2 Cache: 3=256Kbytes
C Max FSB: C=266MHz


90 Degrees Celsius is the maximum die temperature but of course you want to beat their maximum and go as low as you can. The temps you have listed are perfectly fine. Also make sure you are using ARTIC SILVER 3 THERMAL COMPOUND good reviews for it or you can use NANOTHERM THERMAL COMPOUND which also got good reviews but of course artic silver 3 still comes out on top.

The temperatures obtained from AMD.COM :t

[gtr]

I use the tube from cool masters. I'll think about artic silver 3 when they sell it. So should I cancle the order for the ax7 if my heatsink is adequate? Or does the thermoright ax7 the way to go with the 80mm fan?

thanks all.

[jmichna]

Personally, I'd go with the AX7/80mm fan... better cooling, less noise... best of both worlds. Leaves thermal room for tweaking/overclocking when you decide to try it.

Another plus for the AX7 is the retaining spring clip uses all three lugs on both sides of the cpu socket, so it is more secure, and breaking off one lug won't put you out of business.
jmichna

[AllGamer]

i have an XP 2000+
and under heavy load is around 59c
using the crappy retail fan that comes with retail XP.

as long as your CPU temp is under 70c
then it's happy :t

[PolishJim]

How accurate is the Asus Probe program that comes with their motherboards ?
Have A7V266E and with a room temp of 80F(27C) it's reporting 150F (66C) for the retail 1900XP CPU and 86F (30C) for the MB under no proccessor load. Too high ???? No lockups or bsd's.

[Bovon]

Temperture monitoring devices on motherboards (and elsewhere) are done with a temperture sensitive resistor called 'thermistor'.

These thermistors come in several ranges of quality and tolerance.

Labratory type voltage and heat measuring instruments use 1% or less sensing components. These instruments cost hundreds of bucks due to the very low % of error. Motherboards buy these thermistors by the carload, and probably get the cheapest ones available with a tolerance of 20% more or less. So, we see different motherboards displaying a different heat and voltage level sometimes than another board setup identically the same way, using exactly the same heatsink/fan ect.

So, if we have a cpu running at 50 degrees c and is being monitored by a 20% thermistor, we could be off by as much as 10 degrees +/-

Interesting concept, these motherboard monitoring devices, `eh?