Problems networking 2 computers

[astrocreep69_66]

I have two computer that i have been trying to get networked together for the longest time and they jus dont want to work for some reason. My machine which i know works fine over network cuz i got lan parties quite often and dont have any trouble is setup like this : gigabyte 7vrxp motherboard using the built in lan, athlon xp 2000, geforce 4 4400, running windows xp pro. The other computer which i have yet to have work on a network is a KZAMA with a duron 950, voodoo 3 2000 pci card, and a linksys 10/100 network card that i know works fine, also running windows xp pro. i have them connected through a 4 port netgear hub, i know my cables are both okay, i have checked them thouroughly for continuity. i get 100 mbs link lights on everything when its all connected but no matter what i do, the computer cannot see each other, ping each other, or in anyway connect to each other, both computers were tried with auto IP config and then manual IP's and it didnt work either way. Is it possible for my cable to have good continuity and still be bad? or a possible conflict on the duron machine?

[Midknyte]

both systems have to have the same workgroup. make sure you have identical usernames and passwords on each system. check ipconfig /all and make sure they are both in the same subnet.

[AllGamer]

do a
ipconfig /all

on both computers

and post your data here

lets study this

i can bet you have setup DNS from your ISP, and not the iternal LAN, which is driving your whole thing crazy

[astrocreep69_66]

okay ip config on the athlon xp computer is as follows:

windows ip configuration:
primary dns suffix:
node type: unknown
ip routing enabled: no
wins proxy enabled: no

ethernet nic
dhcp enabled: no
ip address: 192.168.1.8
subnet address: 255.255.255.0
default gateway: 192.168.1.11
dns servers: 192.168.1.11

ip config on the other comp is:

windows ip configuration:
primary dns suffix:
node type:unknown
ip routing enabled: no
wins proxy enabled: no

ethernet nic
dhcp enabled: no
ip address: 192.168.1.11
subnet address: 255.255.255.0
default gateway:192.168.1.8

[Midknyte]

your systems should have the same settings except for the host id. one should be say 192.168.1.1 and the other 192.168.1.2. the subnet mask, default gateway, etc should all be the same.

if routing is not running on the second system, the 192.168.1.8 system should not be using it as the default gateway.

are you running ICS or a router in your network? do you have cable modem or dsl?

[astrocreep69_66]

that still didnt help, and no im not using a cable modem or a router or anything like that. I know settings on the first computer are all fine because i can take it to a lan party plug into the switch and be gameing with everyone in under ten minutes, its just something wrong with the second computer, which is why i thought it could be some sort of conflict or something, or a bad installation of xp

[Midknyte]

Just because the settings work at the lan party doesn't mean they are the right settings for you.

you have each system set up as each other's default gateway. if you just have the two computers and they are not connected to the internet, you can leave the default gateway blank. the default gateway is used when requests are going outside the local network. since you will never go outside of the local network, the default gateway can be blank. try that.

if 192.168.1.11 is not a dns server, don't put that setting into system1 either.

[astrocreep69_66]

okay i got rid of the default gateway and dns settings and it still doesnt work

[Midknyte]

can you at least ping each other?

are both systems in the same workgroup? did you add identical users and passwords to each system? is file and printer sharing enabled? did you disable firewalls?

The final thing i would tell you to do is just install netbeui.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q301041

[astrocreep69_66]

no, i already said they cannot ping each other, there on the same work group, and all user accounts are set up the same with file sharing enabled

[Midknyte]

hmm. did you try to ping themselves? do a ping localhost and a ping 127.0.0.1. if you don't get a response, then you should remove the nic and reinstall drivers and tcpip.

[astrocreep69_66]

oh yea they can ping themselves just fine...

[AllGamer]

also print a new listing of your

IPconfig /all

on both computer

to see how they look like now.
i think i know what is missing.
but before i tell ya i need to make sure the rest of the config is done properly.

and Midnite has been rite about all the stuff he has recomended so far.

[AllGamer]

hmm... since i've not seen any reply from anyone yet let me throw in a hint

DNS

anyone will have noticed that from the original post of the setup

hmm.. let me rectify this, Anyone With Good Networking Knowledge and Practice. ;)

[astrocreep69_66]

uhhh neither one has a dns setup anymore, cuz i got rid of that and the default gateway a few posts ago..

[AllGamer]

so i guess you didn't get the hint, eh?

for your Computers, to work and see other properly you will need a DNS setup.

besides the MS File and Printer share.

and for your problem

the 2nd type of work around is to install the IPX/SPX protocol, and set it as your default protocol

make sure you have selected the "Enable NetBIOS" option.

else it wont do what you want.

and don't let it be "Auto" manually set it to 802.2 or 802.3, or whatever choices you get there.

just keep it the same on both PCs.


if you think the IPX thing is too hard, lets just get back to basics and fix your DNS settings.

[Midknyte]

That's why i just said to install netbeui. he only has 2 computers and they're not connected to the internet or anything. he could set up hosts or lmhosts files too, but i just think netbeui would be the easiest. ipx/spx would be fine too. :)