new burner

[alondra]

thanks, I have much to learn, just trial and error http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif the copy sounds great tho.

[codybear]

http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/

[alondra]

thanks for the link, I saved it, any body out there using a sony with CDES seems to work with test and record, with just record got a buffer underrun msg. got a couple coasters http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

[RayH]

If that Sony is the same one my brother has, it won't burn 80 minute CDs nor will it copy 700 MB discs. It'll only go to 650 MB!

[alondra]

the book says it will only do 650 mb. im using 80 min 700 disks, guess it just dont use all of it. i think im gaining on it, the above link mentioned buffer problem, moving mouse, screen saver. just did the R/D disk again at 4X in 20 min. screen went black, need to remedy that, just ignored it. glad I got lots of disks http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif will now try 8X
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tried 8X got that d*** buffer under run.

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[alondra]

finaly bought a burner, best deal I could find, sony 8X, my first disk OK, copied a readers digest music disk 21 tracks, works fine but should it take an hour???

[Roy]

No! For some reason it appears to be burning at 1X. A full 80min disc should take only 10min of actual burn time at 8X, plus the TOC, Close CD and whatever houskeeping it does. Check your software for a speed setting. I know both EZCD Creator and Nero have settings and the option to set a default.

[krusty the klown]

Alondra, are you doing direct disk-to-disk copying, or are you copying files from your hard drive to the CD burner?

If you are doing disk-to-disk, then buffer underrun is much more of a risk because if the CDROM drive has trouble reading the disk, it will try and try. In the meantime, your burner is merrily burning... until the buffer runs out and.......

If you want to copy a CDROM, copy it to the hard drive first (assuming you have the space to do this). It really makes the whole process a lot simpler and you will not create so many coasters!!!

If you are getting underruns and you are reading from the hard drive, not the CDROM, then the hard drive may be very old and slow... is this the case??

To copy a music CD via the hard drive, the files may have to be extracted as .wav files (depending on the burning software, or if you only want certain tracks). Your burning software should be able to cope with this and it should be able to burn a collection of .wav files to a blank disk, leaving them playable in a normal music CD player (great for making your own compilations, or if you have a CD player in the car and don't want to leave originals there). If you are copying whole music CDs, you should not have to extract the files as separate .wavs

I find Adaptec Easy CD Creator intuitive and easy (!). I also use CDR Win - it's a small app and is fairly chopped down and functional - not as 'glossy' as Adaptec.

[Illegal Alien]

Its best to buy a CD burner that supports Burnproofing so that you don't get any underruns. This way you won't get any coasters http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

[alondra]

KTK thanks for the input. am copying from ROM to CDRW. will try going to HD. have lots of space., 8 gig HD, the CDRW has a 4 meg buffer. I only paid $99 for this thing will try to make it work before I return it and go for a more expensive one. they sure are skimmpy on user information. ive printed out 20 pages on just a proggy. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/frown.gif http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/frown.gif
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tried cd to hd to burner. worked fine. 20 min to hd, 10 min to burner, i can live happily with this. (had to clear some space on my c drive.) tkanks, http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

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[krusty the klown]

Hey, alondra - you say 20 minutes to HDD, 10 minutes to burner.... do you mean that it takes 20 minutes to copy the source CDROM to the hard drive??

If so, it sounds like your CDROM drive is quite slow.... does it happen to be a 4X by any chance??

Could be your problem!! The CDROM drive simply can't read the data as fast as the burner can burn when you set it to 8X!!

I have a Pioneer DVD - reads at 40X and an HP 4X burner... I still don't trust it to do direct disk to disk and I always go via the hard drive!

If you have an 8G hard drive, it's fairly modern and should easily be able to keep up with the burner, even on 8X.

You'd probably find that your new burner is in fact quite a fast reader, in which case you will save time by using the burner as the reader to create the image file (or extract selected tracks), removing the original and then putting the blank disk in to burn.

I think it's worth persevering (?sp) with your current drive for a while - I created plenty of coasters with mine before I got the hang of it all!!!

If you still have problems that just are insurmountable, then I'd go with Illegal Alien's suggestion of a BURN proof (Buffer Under RuN) burner. These are a little more expensive, but have the capability to turn the laser on and off if the machine senses a very low buffer.

Good luck http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

EDIT: OK, just had a thought.... in your first post, you said that the burner was taking ages to complete the whole disk... Roy suggested that it was only burning at 1X, which makes sense, considering the amount of time!! Now, when I fire up Adaptec Easy CD creator, it often tests the read speed of the source device (be it my DVD drive, or my hard drive). It's quite possible that the burning software tested your CDROM and decided that the read speed was slow and the safest option was to burn at 1X.... and if you overrode it and told it to do 8X, then the problems occured.... does this seem logical??? Just a thought!!

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[krusty the klown]

^^^Bump!

not sure if you spotted my reply - there may be something useful in it http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

OK, I'll say it before anyone else does.... There's a first time for everything! http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif

[alondra]

KtK sort,of slow geting on. saved your info,my CDROM says it is 40X, I am gaining on this stuff tho http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif may try another CDROM I have. TNX Al

[gauge]

I have a 8X and it burns in about 9 mints. I'm using easy cdcreator 4 and i was having allot of problems at first. What I did not know is I had to shut down all of the programs in the background. It also take longer if you test and create.