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Ok, can someone explain this to me?
you do a who is on AOL and it comes up as its DNS servers being
ie: aol.bitesme.bigtime.com
now that guy must be using a DNS hack on AOL right? T o hide his position? (Cause thats who hit your firewall)Now why dont huge companies like AOL take measures against this>?
When you can find FIVE such DNS hacks on large companies like UU.NET and AOl.. and I have found lots of blatant others.. why cant those companies secure their systems? There are like 5 on UU net and they have always been hinky ( blatant) like that for about a year. Now they use the same numbers but take out the obvious statements. (Like bite me or whatever) but the numbers are the same as they have always been.
The earthlink one drives me nuts~~ cause I asked their on line live teck support and THEY said that Itchy & Scratchy DNS's were VALID.
WHy doesnt this kind of thing matter?
BipolarBill
08-13-2002, 02:13 AM
Because the top-level domain here is BIGTIME - not AOL. Actually, the .COM is the top-level domain and the root domain is BIGTIME. As long as that is as far from AOL as it is, there's nothing that AOL or anyone else can or needs to do about it. Who cares about BIGTIME.COM?
Here's one:
www.whitehouse.gov
Notice the top-level domain? Try the usual one in it's place. Now there's abuse! It's still legal though. :(
I finally spout off about this after watching these for a year, and I go and check and all the names have finally been altered.
This is what it was.. a month or so ago.
Name Server: AUTH00.NS.UU.NET
Name Server: AUTH60.NS.UU.NET
Name Server: AUTH200.NS.UU.NET
Name Server: AUTH210.NS.UU.NET
Updated Date: 20-nov-2001
03/28/02 11:40:50 whois AUTH00.NS.UU.NET
Whois Server Version 1.3
UU.NET.IS.NO.MATCH.FOR.THE.UBER-GEEKS.AT.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG
UU.NET
ALL the above UUnet parse to the same result.
Thats unreal Bill (your answer)
BipolarBill
08-13-2002, 03:16 AM
My answer? That's funny! Here's to Jim and his buddies. http://membres.lycos.fr/limagerie/beer.gif
You support the efforts of hackers to compromise systems and use other ISP's DNS to hide their locations and activites??????:confused:
AllGamer
08-13-2002, 11:57 AM
The fact in life... no body likes to be tracked.
some do it to really hide something, some does it to just prevent unwanted attention sniffing around
Like me, i use that stuff too when i feel a site or place is not worthy of the real me.
like emails for instance tons of anoymous emails you can use.
there are prenty of websites and software, and all kind of legal stuff about that.
say for example PGP, by your definitions and FBI that will be considered offensive also.
but it's totally legal. anyways...
"Freedom of speech rules" !! :D
BipolarBill
08-13-2002, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Sus~
You support the efforts of hackers to compromise systems and use other ISP's DNS to hide their locations and activites??????:confused: Let's just say that I'm not a big fan of UU.net. Besides, what measureable harm has been done in your example? I looks more like graffiti to me.
DVNT1
08-13-2002, 12:10 PM
AOL's DNS entries seem fine, maybe the DNS servers you are using are being Poisoned.
Domain Name: AOL.COM
Registrant:
America Online, Inc.
22000 AOL Way
Dulles, VA 20166
US
Created on..............: Jun 22 1995 12:00AM
Expires on..............: Nov 23 2002 7:02AM
Record Last Updated on..: Jul 8 2002 8:45PM
Registrar...............: America Online, Inc.
http://whois.registrar.aol.com/whois/
Administrative, Technical Contact:
AOL Domain Administration (America Online, Inc.)
22000 AOL Way
Dulles, VA 20166
US
Tel. 703 265 4670
Email: domains@aol.net
Domain servers:
DNS-01.NS.AOL.COM
152.163.159.232
DNS-02.NS.AOL.COM
205.188.157.232
DNS-06.NS.AOL.COM
149.174.211.8
DNS-07.NS.AOL.COM
64.12.51.132
from www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois
BipolarBill
08-13-2002, 12:23 PM
Sus~ and I have exchanged some PMs on suspected hacking and, from what he's told me, I can see that his ISP is absolutely clueless. I suspect that his ISP is being jerked around by some malcontent or this is an "inside job". I wouldn't be surprised to find out that his ISP has a disgruntled or mischievious employee.
"Sus~ and I have exchanged some PMs on suspected hacking and, from what he's told me, I can see that his ISP is absolutely clueless. I suspect that his ISP is being jerked around by some malcontent or this is an "inside job". I wouldn't be surprised to find out that his ISP has a disgruntled or mischievious employee."
Reason it bothers me? Cause last year YAHOO.COM was hitting my firewall on sub7 ports.
And.. other activities of similar nature have happened.. all covered by bogus DNS numbers. This particular group had an entire site with FTP to hacking programs, DOS worms..kermit... all kinds of stuff. How tos for all newbie hackers etc..
what can I say? It ticks me off that this is allowed on such a huge basis.
Ohhhh you mean itchy & scratchy? earthlink? Is that what you were referring to?
BipolarBill
08-14-2002, 02:01 AM
I used Earthlink as my first ISP. After I moved to Mindspring for a year or two, I went back to Earthlink. The bozos had never killed my POP account and there were over 1000 spams waiting for me. I had to download every last one of those buggers by 56K to get to the first legit message.
That's Earthlink. :rolleyes:
* shaking my head in disbelief*
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