Parents against gaming. your thoughts?

[OpK Chowdy]

Ok, well its the summer time here and school is out. im a college-bound kid with 4.0 gpa and all that other bs. my mom says that when school starts this september (i will be starting my 10th grade year) that there will be NO games WHATSOEVER. What do you parents and gaming-teens have to say about this. i don't want to complain or anything on these boards, but i just want to know if you think that what she's doing is a wise deicision or not.

PS: i'd also like some strategies to get my gaming back!:(

[tony_j15]

uhh, wow. If you can keep your grades up like that and get your work done on time then I see no reason for your mom to take away your games. Unless you sit there all day. I had my privleges sp? taken away for that. Did she give you a reason for taking the games away?

[gibsinep]

I dont see the problem, you have a 4.0 but your mom wontlet you play games. :confused:

My parents never cared if I played games, as I always got all A's but they said if I were ever to gte say a C they would betaken away.

I dont know? is your social life hurting from spending a lot fo time on computers? That may be a reason if it is. Try to reason with her and say.

'Mom I get 4.0 in school, this should show I am responsible with my school work and should have the chance to play games somtimes'


I dont know, before were you allowed to play games during the school year?

[BadBadNeil]

Every kid needs free time it is your decision what to do in that free time.

Theres a lotta kids in 10th grade out there doing drugs and dropping outta school. You must be doing something right....

Sometimes parents push kids too hard to do good in school and forget that once you lose your childhood you can never get it back again. Have fun while you can because you can never go back.

Believe me, working 60hrs a week after college leaves little time for fun....

[Bigjakkstaffa]

My parents always threaten to ban the compo etc etc especially near the time of exams, however they very rarely do it -- i have to set fire to the kitchen table deliberatley or some such midemeanor for them to actually follow through on their often idle threats

In fact my mum gets more disgruntled about my dads gaming habit than mine :p

--Jakk:t

[Sark]

if u want a strat for you to be able to play games, suggest a time limit. I can use this thing all the time i want in the summer or vacation, but when school starts i get two hours a day. Maybe ure mom will like that idea? I no time limits suck but at least youll be able to use the thing.:t

[gibsinep]

Try to bargain her down, and do all your housework so you get what you want. :D ;)

[NDD]

What's "school" ?! :confused: :eek: :rolleyes:

[earnie86]

My kids have unlimited time to play games, watch tv and use the computers. They just have to get good grades. They both had marks in the 90's last year, so they had no limits whatsoever. Your mother is wrong to try and prevent you from doing something you enjoy. It will only create animosity towards her and schooling. Taking away priviledges such as gaming should only be done as disciplinary action. Ask your mother only to prevent or reduce your game time if your grades suffer. You will get your homework and or assignments done a lot quicker if you know you will be able to do something you enjoy afterwards.;)

[the xenon]

Tell her to set u a gaming limit like an hour a day or something and then like 2 on the weekends.
I remember when i was like in 7th grade i used to have those. I used to get like half hour a day and then unlimited on the weekends , so that was fun.:) But then my friend had only 2 hours on weekends. lol :p It was like his special 2 hrs no one was allowed in his room and he never picked up the phone . lol if he did he wouldnt talk. O well it was a fun time :x

[$1500-P4 gamer]

Dont know what to tell ya. When I was in school home pc's were too expensive. So I used them at school. Thats where I did my first cpu and mem upgrade on a 486 in High Tech class!:eek: Now my neighbor had a pc in the 386 days and I played on that-but my parents didnt know! hehe. But then the nintendo came out and then limits were set. Homework done first-grades stay up and its off at super time. New era of kids. New set of rules I guess. But just the same I think if your grades stay the same and your in bed on time (not up all night gaming) then it shouldnt matter at all. Time limits on the weekend are really bogus- you could be out shooting heroin up with your freinds or something instead. Tell her happy gamers are streight! That might get the point across. Your mind needs some kind of release from work especially when your younger. You will find your vice one way or another. If you were my kid I'd be glad that pc's took up your free time and not worse things!;) Try to tell her your prepairing for the future by becoming more pc oriented-something she didnt do or have the ability to. Most jobs you have to be fluent on pc's to even get the job! Thats a accet these days on your resume!!!:t

[Paco103]

Dude - that bites!!! I'll be going to college this year - I graduated with a 3.96. Only reason for that was I opted to take tech school comp/electronics. classes which aren't weited - or I would have had over 4. I played games all I wanted - I went to parties whenever I wanted - and did pretty much what I wanted. My parents WERE strict about having a general idea what I was doing, where I was, and when to expect me back (you know - the "ask" commercials here in the US:P) As long as I kept my grades up - I could spend as much time on the computer as I wanted. In fact - my "computer junkie" habits landed me a near full scholarship to a computer science program at the college I've wanted to go to since I was a freshmen - try THAT approach ;) She MIGHT be pushing for a more social life for you - but if that's not what you want - or it's fine - I don't think she should push it. I got most of my social life chatting - cause I really didn't get to talk to people much during classes. Then you got LAN parties (That's a social event - right?! ;))

Bottom line - find out WHY she feels this way. My mom was afraid "I'd have too much homework" - I don't know about your HS/classes - but I rarely had homework - when I did I'd just do it the next day in some required fly-by classes (we had alternating day schedules). Point out scholarship opportunities. If computers are what you love - you're not going to get a scholarship in auto mechanics:P You have to CARE about the subject to excel - and caring about computers is what got me and a lot of my friends where we are!! Even if you don't care about the hardware/physical aspects of a computer - coding games is an ART - a lot of people can not do it - if that's your interest - you may have an excellent chance at going that direction. In that case - you of course need to 'research' :P and learn what works and what doesn't in the gaming world!!!!!

Sorry this is so long - but I really do feel that as long as your grades are fine - and you've atleast got SOME social life (you don't have to go out every weekend) - then it's kind of a harsh restriction.

[Mutant_Donkey]

my parents are dead

[morpheus kain]

My mom grounded me from my comp a couple times. She wondered why I never complained. One night I came home with a couple different funny smells on my breath and I was a little tipsy so I couldn't GET THE M#FING SCREEN BACK ON MY WINDOWWWWWWWWWWW ARGHHHHH. So when I woke up to my mom yelling at me because the screen was off my window and why I looked messed up I knew it was over. Well, she hasn't been ANYWHERE near as quick to get on my case about being on the PC after that. After a few weeks of indiscretion I have straighened out and am a good kid now. I make good grades too, 3.85 (cuz I'm lazy and I take classes like AP and my math is a year ahead AND honors) This year I'll do better and I'll make a 4.0 cuz I won't be so GD lazy. I think I did 2HW assignments the whole year and managed to pull of a 3.85. I guess that is a true show of my own stupidity since I could've had a 4.0. Oh well I was fresman so thankfully it doesn't count as much.

[$1500-P4 gamer]

Originally posted by Mutant_Donkey
my parents are dead

Sorry to hear that.:(
But your here:D

[morpheus kain]

My condolences donkey.

[SJG437]

Chowdy - I'm assuming by your post that you're the "model" student. So I would eliminate your grades, study habits, etc... right off the bat.

How is your social life? Paco103 touched on this in his/her post and that could very well be the area of concern for your parents. Do you opt out of social interaction in favor of gaming, etc...?

Bottom line is if you are maintaining a decent G.P.A. and have some sembelance (sp?) of a social life ther is not much to be concerned about.. you sound like a normal, healthy, teenager to me. Ask your Mom why she is so against you gaming - argue your point... you have more than enough "artillery" to sway her in your favor (assuming your post is the truth :p ).

And lastly, Be proud to have parents that are actually concerned for your well-being... I am sure they mean nothing but the best for you! :t

[ukulele]

When I was in high School computers were the size of airplane hangars and even calculators were too expensive to own. In a way I am glad that was the case because if there had been PC's I surely would have wasted some of the best years of my life in front of one. By the time I was 19 I had already traveled half way around the world, against my parents wishes, so I had to work to get anywhere at all. The experience was invaluable as I learned far more then any computer games could ever teach me. I married late in life and never had any kids, but I am sure if I had some I would try to steer them away from gaming as much as possible. Your youth is a time to experience the real world and build physical stamina. Sitting in front of a monitor for hours on end is a useless waste of time. My advice is to save it for when you are retired. A much better use of time on computers would be to learn how to build them and program them. Ya, I know I am a silly old **** in some of your eyes, but some day you too will have to enter the real world and then all the rules you learned gaming will be useless nonsense. ;)

[morpheus kain]

Silly old ****:p Yeah, now that I have a social life I dont' game anywhere near as much as I used to.

[SJG437]

Funny how your parents become wiser as you grow older ;)

[Bizkitkid2001]

Man that really sucks that your parents won't let you play video games.

My parents haven't said anything about the blood and gore and stupid games getting to my head. But one time I was playing Max Payne on the XBOX and I was laughing my head off because I was killing so many people and then my mom walked in an nearely fainted:D :p (I guesse I went a lil' overboard:eek: :rolleyes: :r)

[Logan2002]

when i first got my first computer (notebook) I was busy playing on that thing for ages. AND I was a college students, my parents did not get on my case much.

Maybe it was because I was a college student?? (actually my wife just said that)

[Paco103]

Man - back in the days of Duke Nukem 3D - my mom would stand here and watch me play. She knew I could hack the .con files and stuff - and she'd always say "Turn up the gore!!" (she's an original mother:P) - so I'd have it turned up to the max - you'd shoot one person and the screen would go almost red - there'd be like 10 ribcages flying out of one guy - arms and legs everywhere. I guess it's a difference in people though. It is nice that your parents care - but in my opinion - you're too old to control every detail - you have to be able to be yourself. They can't control your friends or your hobbies anymore - and - "All work and no play make Jack get bad grades" :)

[morpheus kain]

I think you need to show you parents that you need to learn to become responsible for yourself. The only way to learn to become responsilbe for yourself is doing it and making mistakes. She just needs to chill.

[mcool61]

Does yur mom ride a broom, or work for the evil one?

Remember u catch more flies with honey. If all else fails there's always the arcade at the mall.

[Baddog]

I'd rather have my child on the puter than roaming the streets.

[Mutant_Donkey]

Originally posted by mcool61
Does yur mom ride a broom, or work for the evil one?

Remember u catch more flies with honey. If all else fails there's always the arcade at the mall.


nothing like that here.

[Spoonman3z]

Try being stubborn - when school starts...start failing all your subjects until she lets you play again....that oughta give you the green light real soon :p (or maybe a beating :eek: )

[morpheus kain]

I'll put my money on a beating.:eek:

[mcool61]

Sorry about your parents donkey. As for the other stuff if you don't have it get it. Take charge.
If that doesn't work emigrate. Happy trails:t

Kids don't get near enough beatings now days. Why I got beat most every day & it never hurt me none. The prison guards say I behave better than most.

[Paco103]

he he - great answer:P

[biged322]

Good God! And I thought my mom was a b****

[gfunkmartin]

I moved out I have my own apartment near college park MD

GO TERPS!

Jason

[Bullion]

Personally i dont think that parents imposing limits has much affect. Teach the child to impose thier own limits has a greater result. When you enter college/uni parents no longer have much influence on how you prioritise your time and if you dont learn to control your self youll most likly fail/drop out. I have many friends that dropped out changed courses and generally wasted time because they didnt structure thier own life. I myself took 2 years to fully appreciate that learning was more interesting than any other time wasting activity i did.

But thats my opinion

[Avor]

I hear a lot about the social life thing.

Can't people have a social life on the computer? Heck, what's this board? People talking about certain subjects, discussing different views etc.

As long as people exchange ideas, I consider it socializing. You don't see many posts with "<private conversation with self>" in them :)

What this boils down to is if socializing is something you do face to face or not?

Many parents also can't understand how people can have friends they've never met over the internet either. If this sounds like your parents, mention the word "pen pale" and maybe they can relate :r

Some of my best friends are in Europe. 10$ says I'll never see them in my life... 10 more says no one will collect if i'm wrong :)

[couch potato]

its wrong. as long as you get good grades, you should get unlimited time. if you got a 4.0, you deserve it. have you always been playing games in the shool year? if so, then why the sudden stop? what harm WILL come to you, if you do, anyway? thats my opinion. :rolleyes:

[AllGamer]

So what's 4 GPA compared to on the Metric school system?

100 points?

[Spoonman3z]

yeah...a 4.0 = 100 out of 100

4.0=A, 3.0=B, 2.0=C, 1.0=D

[AllGamer]

Thanks, that's what i thought.
:t

[morpheus kain]

Not really spoonman. A 4.0 is just straight A's. An A is between 100=94 in some school districts. Where I live it's between a 100-90 but it's no different from being between 100-94 because the teachers just grade harder.

[gibsinep]

Also were I live it is all A( so anything from 90-100)

[Spoonman3z]

well you can break em down even further (at least where i went to school) - a 3.65 is an A-

A 3.3 is a B+ and a 2.7 is a B-

i guess it all depends on what school you're at

[gibsinep]

Spoonman3z- It is way different were I went,

example all A's in classes except Art, You GPA is a 3.89 :t

[rrugg]

My dad HATES games and he fires up on me everytime he sees me playing a game on the computer. One time he whacked me right in the side of the head with the metal end of a fly swatter just because he caught me playing solitaire on my grandma's laptop. What really set him off is when he found BoonDoogle in my sock drawer. It's not even a computer game. It's like a board game or something. He fired that thing against the wall so hard it shattered into toothpicks. Anyway, he hates games.

[AllGamer]

Originally posted by Avor
I hear a lot about the social life thing.

Can't people have a social life on the computer? Heck, what's this board? People talking about certain subjects, discussing different views etc.

As long as people exchange ideas, I consider it socializing. You don't see many posts with "<private conversation with self>" in them :)

What this boils down to is if socializing is something you do face to face or not?

Many parents also can't understand how people can have friends they've never met over the internet either. If this sounds like your parents, mention the word "pen pale" and maybe they can relate :r

Some of my best friends are in Europe. 10$ says I'll never see them in my life... 10 more says no one will collect if i'm wrong :)

No, when "people" refers to Social life, they refer to 1 nite stands, Dance Club, Beer, have a good time, sex, etc.

[morpheus kain]

Tell your mom that games are an outlet for all the stress caused by school and wihtout them you will become very tense and probably won't do as well in school. That should help some.

[ukulele]

example all A's in classes except Art, You GPA is a 3.89

Just curious, how did art classes affect the GPA. The school I went to was a college prep school and didn't even teach a course in art. This school was run by Franciscan Monks who must have thought art was a foolish endevour or lead to perversion of the morals or something. I've been a successful artist most of my life and am sure I could have done even better if these boneheads would have recognized my talent when they had an opportunity to teach me something. They did give me a good foundation in math, science and literary skills, but art should be even more important as it is the culmination of all these studies and one of the most valuable assets you can have for industry.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

No, when "people" refers to Social life, they refer to 1 nite stands, Dance Club, Beer, have a good time, sex, etc.

...all of which are the reasons i wish i had one :p

--Jakk:t

[rrugg]

My dad says that games are made in the Devil's workshop and that they make people live in a fantasy and sometimes they show a boob or say some words that God don't like. I told him he was an a-hole and he chased me all the way down the street in his bare feet and cracked me in the back with a tomato stick. He made me pray right out in the middle of the street in front of my frens house. Then he poured all my pogs out in the yard and shredded them up with the lawnmower. I can't have no games that don't have the word "Bible" or "Pontoon" in it.

[Mutant_Donkey]

well, nothing like that every happened to me in the days of wolfenstein original, but i'd say some parents just are to 'old' to understand games. i dont know the real answer, cause im not a parent, but as to beating your child with a tomato stick and destroying his personal game artifacts, its ridiculous. i get really mad when i see japanese animation/pokemon cards, so as to the point were i want to burn every one of them and kill the person who drained his whole piggy banck on some anime garbage. maybe theres some correlation?



ps. thanks for the sympathy with the parents. i appreciate it, i dont really like to talk about them, but my dad passed away first in the early 90's, and my mom recently. i cant bear saying anymore than that; excuse me though its kind of hard to express emotions of the forums, :(

[gibsinep]

ukulele- It is really stupid how they do this, but Art, music, and gym are actualyl considered clases that affect the GPA. I remember many people not getting a 4.0 because they got a B in art. :eek: What a crock that is.

Also if you fail even one year of gym( by no dressing, kinda hard to fail all year but it has happened) you wouldl not graduate High school. Even if you had A+ in every other class as you need 4 years of gym for some odd reason.


Bah, New York state education what the hell is wrong with them?

[ukulele]

My dad says that games are made in the Devil's workshop and that they make people live in a fantasy and sometimes they show a boob or say some words that God don't like. I told him he was an a-hole and he chased me all the way down the street in his bare feet and cracked me in the back with a tomato stick. He made me pray right out in the middle of the street in front of my frens house. Then he poured all my pogs out in the yard and shredded them up with the lawnmower. I can't have no games that don't have the word "Bible" or "Pontoon" in it.

Bide your time. When you are 18 you can legally leave home and make you own decisions about what is right and wrong. For now you are best off to just go with the flow. Your dad is wrong to do what he did but he has his own convictions and you are stuck with it for the time being. Some parents are looking after their own interests more then their children's. He has peer pressure too. He also has lessons in life to learn. Don't hate him for this. Just do your thing and do the best you can and hope understands this one day. My dad is still trying to understand me and I am almost 49 and no failure like he thought I would be. :)

[Mutant_Donkey]

Originally posted by rrugg
My dad says that games are made in the Devil's workshop and that they make people live in a fantasy and sometimes they show a boob or say some words that God don't like. I told him he was an a-hole and he chased me all the way down the street in his bare feet and cracked me in the back with a tomato stick. He made me pray right out in the middle of the street in front of my frens house. Then he poured all my pogs out in the yard and shredded them up with the lawnmower. I can't have no games that don't have the word "Bible" or "Pontoon" in it.

I AM NOT SUPRISED

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it woul seem nominal judging all the stuff you've been through

[gibsinep]

What the hell is wrong with him, look at some of his pictures( that he edited himself into) Or thats what it looks like.


'shutter'

weird.


an example
http://www.angelfire.com/apes/uck/photos/pic17.html


( why is it with his website I am under the impression his 'posts' may be a bit far off?)

[Mutant_Donkey]

VERY scarry.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Id say that the boy has issues...

(should i be saying boy -- he is older than me afterall:confused: )

--Jakk:t

[Mutant_Donkey]

your about 10x more mature than him though ;)

[ukulele]

I remember many people not getting a 4.0 because they got a B in art. What a crock that is.

I really can't agree with you there. The GPA is an overall assessment of what you learned (unless you are a cheater). Unfortunately we all have a certain weakness in some subjects. Some people just can't draw a straight line, some can't count past their fingers and toes and some can't spel "spel". Trying to maintain a 4.0 in subjects you don't excell in could slow you down in the subjects that you do well in. I wouldn't worry so much about maintaining a perfect GPA. Concentrate on learning what you are best at and get the core requirements behind you, but most important, study what you enjoy the most. If you enjoy gaming, figure out a way to make a living at it. There is plenty of room for creative people in this field too. This is where discipline is a necessity. Find time for both play and work on your computer. Moderation is the key.

[gibsinep]

ukulele- on the subject of getting B in art that could ruin a perfect GPA, this is somthing, I am sorry, that ALL artist dont get. Some people can draw, and unlike counting and spelling it can not be taught to a good job. Sure you can improve but some will never improve to an A ability in ART. It is like running, if you are born slow, sure you can improve and get faster however you will never be fast.


Spelling can be taught and so can counting if it is studied hard enough anyone should be able to get it. ( unless it is from mental problems which is ok)

I always was bad in Art, but managed to get A's in it. I really cant figure it out myslef but I am not going to try.

Art,gym, and music should not be included in an over all GPA.

IMO.

:t

[AllGamer]

What really sucks in ART, is that no matter how good you are at painting, drawing, sculping, etc.

If you don't scores on those stupid ART history test, and those darn literatures, those ******* teachers will screw you over.

i always had perfect scores for all the manual stuff, but when it came to those **** boring artistic history, it just made me sleep.

ART is suppose to be self expression, and relaxed, forcing you to study history, is pointless, unless you are into that arcane stuff, into those arches, or into those piccasso abstracted objectivity view of the world.

and well... you get my point.

ART has to be free to be good, it has to be in your brood, it has to be in your spirit, it comes freely, it selfs guides itself, its not objective, it's creative, it's limited only by your imagination.
:t

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Do you mind, all this talk of exams and school is making me nervous, my GCSE results ar eout in a fortnight and im crappin me whack over em'.

My expected grades were like the highest in the school ( i BS ye not), and theres no waaaay ive lived up to em :(

Oh and i dont understand all these american grading systems your talking about

Still... "bad day f--k it" :x

--Jakk:t

[ukulele]

Sure you can improve but some will never improve to an A ability in ART.

Nonsense. I never had any natural talent for art. I worked **** hard for years and studied long hours to make my first buck in art. I got into it because I realized years ago that if I would ever get rich it would have to be in art because I wasn't born rich. I'm still not rich in the monetary sense but I'm a billionaire in peace of mind. I have been successfully self employed for most of my life and wouldn't give it up for all the money in the world. I truly think you can do anything you want to in life, you just have to apply yourself.

[morpheus kain]

Become a transfer student and take a year of school across the ocean. It's quite nice down here in Florida.

[gibsinep]

ukulele- I am sorry but I think you are wrong, speaking from experiance with brother and father. It is hard to understand when one isnt good at it. Just as I am fast, probably the fastest were I went, so i could never understand how a slow kid could just be slow. Just as you are having trouble with people that suck at art that could practice/study whatever for hours everyday and not be good at it. It is a gift, if it wasent everyone would be making tons of money of their art.

the only reason I got A's in art is because I got 100% on every written test, and then c/b on the actual art. Lucky for me they always came out to a 90 or 91 average.

I try harder then the next guy but it is simple I can do it as well.



:t

[mcool61]

If I ever called my dad an a-hole I wouldn't have lived to complain about it.

:eek:

[ukulele]

gibsinep, I build high quality solid Koa Ukuleles for mostly professional musicians and restore some of the finest stringed instruments ever made to like new condition. I make small boxes that sell for hundreds and tv tray sets or coffee tables that often sell for thousands. This is an art as complex as the best painter can do or sculpter can carve. I learned it by years of experience and persistance. I can't play music worth a **** as that is an art I never worked hard at, but I am certain that if I applied myself in this endeavor I would some day be able to practice that skill too. You just need to find your niche and work hard at that one thing that you excel at. Trying to do it all by maintaining a 4.0 average in school works in high school when the subject matter is still below 101 college level, but in the real world no body expects you to be a genius at everything, but you better be good at what you are getting paid to do or you won't get paid for long. That takes hard work and experience and a lust for knowledge in your choosen field of endeavor. Talent is a myth. Genuine interest, hard work and good schooling rules in the end.

[iceblue]

Originally posted by morpheus kain
Become a transfer student and take a year of school across the ocean. It's quite nice down here in Florida.

from what i hear it's a mosquito infested tourist swamp for the most part.

[gibsinep]

ukulele- I know what you are saying, I was really talking abut the real world just back when when these kids didnt get a higher GPA becasue of art,gym, or music. In the real wold it doesnt matter if you are good in art if you dont choose a profession including art.


I wouldnt say talent is a myth, but I think the argument is over.


:t

[morpheus kain]

There aren't many swamps in Florida, they were drained a LONG time ago. I have had 1 mosquito bite all Summer. They spray like heck for 'em. And the beaches are beautiful too. It's great, and it doesn't get COLD, I can't STAND cold.

[The_Shafer]

I'll just say the following:
I'm a 17 year old male who has a current 4.0 in my school, I went to national competition for computer repair and maintenance, I am student council president, along with other things. I even have a job dealing with computer repair. I have a girlfriend, but it is not a physical relationship, and we have lots of fun. I am also a hardcore gamer, and enjoy all the violent games you can name. I am a friendly person that doesn't get into fights (i'm not a shriveled up nerd though) *smirks*. I do have faults, but for the most part, my parents are happy with me, and from what you've told me, your parents should be very happy to have you the way you are as well. :)

The_Shafer@hotmail.com

The_Shafer :D

[$1500-P4 gamer]

SuP bAnGeRs N bIzNiTcHeS. yO i'M jAcE (aKa JaSoN) aNd DiS iS mAh PaGe. Yo HeRe Go ThE 411 oN mE.

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I'm 18 years old.
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My AIM is RodRugg so ya'll can be all chattin' wit me.
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I be representin Reno in full effect. The biggest little city in the world. Sup.
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I work up in a pool hall. Whass up!!
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I got my own crib this summer (Whass up!) and that's tight.
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When I'm not working, I spend my time pumpin out rhymes, listening to cool music, mackin' wit muh Gs and battling this god **** asthma.
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I love the ladies and the ladies love me.
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I just graduated from high school and I'm glad to be up outta dat wack *** place. School sucks and learning stuff is a waste of time.
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When I was 16, I got addicted to cough syrup real bad, but that's all over with.
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I like to collect hunting knives and old coke bottles and write lyrics.
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One time I punched my shop teacher in the face and broke his jaw.
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I like to play Quake3 when I'm dustin'. Sometimes I play for 10 hours str8.
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My favorite foods are hamburgers and tater tots. I eat it for lunch every day. Whass up!
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One time I ran over this kid with a lawnmower and got the bum rap. I had to go to juvenile even tho it wasn't my fault.
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Me and my friend A-Dawg got kicked out of the San Francisco Zoo for life for thowin dirt at some animal.
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My old man's been in jail since I was 5 because he freaked out and buried my mom in the backyard up to her neck and left her there. I know it sounds trippin but she's still pretty f*@#ed up about it.

My Favorite Sayings: "Yo dude, come check this out before I flush it." - A-Dawg

If I had a kid that talked/acted like that you would think a tomato stick was soft my freind. What happend to you to make you so evil-distorted twisted etc etc? 18 and life to go, comes to mind.;)

[gibsinep]

I think it is all an act and a lie. :rolleyes:

[Bigjakkstaffa]

--gee ya think :r

--Jakk:t

[gibsinep]

lol yep. :x

[rrugg]

My dad just bought me this game called "Bible Quest IV: The Acts of the Apostles." This game is stupid and i'd rather be playing Spoons with my uncle's friend.

[ukulele]

My dad just bought me this game called "Bible Quest IV: The Acts of the Apostles." This game is stupid and i'd rather be playing Spoons with my uncle's friend.

You best learn to play the game sonny boy. After reading the above post's I can see why you dad would run over your games with a lawnmower. If you were my snot nosed kid I would run over the computer too. The only hope for you is to join the Navy. I hear they are short of crapper cleaners. A large aircraft carrier has over 1500 toilets on board that you can play in. :t

[gibsinep]

Funny how I cant find any info on the game on google? :confused:


Kid just give it a rest no one wants to hear you anymore. :rolleyes:

[morpheus kain]

Hey may or may not misbehave, but I think boot camp would be good for him!!!!!!!:r :x

[gibsinep]

bootcamp, prison, small island by himself, they all work.;) :D

[$1500-P4 gamer]

LOL. Yeah 15 min. with Buba should set things back in perspective.:x :r :t

[gibsinep]

LOL, fear the shower room. :x

[Optimus Prime]

Originally posted by $1500-P4 gamer
LOL. Yeah 15 min. with Buba should set things back in perspective.:x :r :t

:eek: scary stuff :eek:

[morpheus kain]

Don't drop the soap, Bubba's waiting for ya to bend over and pick it up:eek: :r :r: :eek:

[$1500-P4 gamer]

Yep, thats why soap on the roap was invented. With it tied to your kneck "no fear", well less anyway!:t

[gibsinep]

lol, what an interesting thread. :p

[mcool61]

Yup. I suspected dadwhiner was a dud when I went to his website. Even the people on the wrong side of the tracks wouldn't use his rap to fertilize their weed.s

[OpK Chowdy]

Hey. i didn't expect so many responses! i was away at my grandmas for a bit so im sorry for not responding. Anyway, yeah yeah, im the model student. Anyone here ever heard of "Guidence (sp)" during middle school? well it's the highschool equivalent of detention. i never had guidence once. I also have never been to detention. so that rules out grades and behavior.

I do have a social life. I only game to be with my friends. I typically go out with friends to lan centers, arcades, or to their houses to game. There is a social life...it is just oriented around forms of electronic entertainment.

I also sit in front of the pc as much as i can. if i finish my homework (my freshman year, i had less than 30min worth of homework a night!) i would game until 10:00-11:00 and go to sleep. my parents say i'm addicted.

ps: i also have chores to do, which i do every flippin' day of the week for no pay by the way.

[OpK Chowdy]

"Tell your mom that games are an outlet for all the stress caused by school and wihtout them you will become very tense and probably won't do as well in school. That should help some."



I did tell her that. her response was:

Me: Mom i need to play games because it is an a form of escapism which i use to escape the stress of everyday life.

Mom: *laugh* you have stress? Hey John (my dad, name changed), come here.

Dad: yeah?

Mom: charlie says he needs to play games becaue he has stress.

Dad: do you know what stress is? *laugh* stress is being an adult, paying bills, going to work...you don't have stress. you got it made.

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as you can see. my parents are @ssholes. I don't come to these boards to rant or complain, but im serious, they are @ssholes. 80% of what my dad says is criticism towards what i do, don't do, or do poorly. 19% is him telling me to do things. 1% is "other."
My mom is so old-fashioned, she fits the PERFECT stereotype for asian mother. She is overprotective...ahem... "you're not driving until you're twenty" and "no girlfriends until you're through with college." and so on. anyway. back to gaming issue. my dad is sensible enough to say he will let me sneak on once in a while... what he told me fits in the 1% category.

[gibsinep]

Well, if your parents think yo don have stress as a teen student suggest they see a doctor/or shrink. :rolleyes:

no joke

[morpheus kain]

Come home stoned. **** them off. It'll at least give you the opportunity to make them think about their utterly ridicoulous and amazingly asinine preconceptions of being a teen. OR, they'll beat you, ground you for the rest of your life and other things that'll make you say. :eek: Just as a last ditch effort. Or, you can just get your teachers to give you d's and f's on the grading reports you get halfway through the six (or nine) weeks. Then tell them that the stress is getting to you because your having trouble with school and you can't seem to remember stuff while your taking a test. If all else fails, burn down the house. That won't fix much you'll feel better. (ok that was a joke, I know you're certainly intelligent enough NOT to do that)

[$1500-P4 gamer]

Teens have MORE stress than adults. Why-the pressures of growing up. Facing the future "what will I be"? "How do I go about getting there"? "What college do I attend"? "Will a good school want me"? "Will I have the cash to go to that school". Then there is peer presure and everything else. Plus raging hormones-or didnt your dad have those? They do need to see a shrink-theres no way they are thinking right about this. I call this the "closed mind syndrom". IE if it isnt their prob then it isnt important. Like the Bills comment. That just showed a narrow mind right there! And I am a adult tell them that one.;)

[Optimus Prime]

the first fully grown adult to understand what teenagers go through : p4-gamer :)

[morpheus kain]

Man that should become Schoolboard Superintendent, P4!!

[gibsinep]

Forget Superintendent why not President? :p

[Asonic]

I had a bad childhood NOT AS BAD AS IT COULD BE but because i was depressed as a child and my school work suffered.

My best memorys from my childhood are when my dad and I played computer games togeather, Pac Man on the Atari 2600, Links 386 and games like that.

In fact it was my dad who brought the computers and the games - NATIO considered him one of the most intelligent and exprienced people in his field - he often said "all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" its an old saying but true.

Your parents only want whats best for you and at this time in your life getting a good education is whats best if you want a good job, but knowing how to have fun is very important, its the hardest thing i have tryed to learn, im 28 and still trying to learn how to enjoy life.

I don't have a job at the moment and employers are reluctant to employ me because i don't fit in. I don't fit in because people don't know how to relate to me because i look so misreable (acording to the psycholists).

[ukulele]

I don't have a job at the moment and employers are reluctant to employ me because i don't fit in. I don't fit in because people don't know how to relate to me because i look so misreable (acording to the psycholists).

Perhaps you need a new shrink. Sounds to me like the one you've got isn't doing much for your self esteem. There is little hope for a man who worries about what other people think, especially a shrink.

[morpheus kain]

Dead on Ukele. Why not be happy and present yourself well Asonic? You only have one life and you don't do anyone any good by remembering the past instead of making the absolute best of the future. Remember, the man staring back at you in the mirror is exactly what other people see.

[Asonic]

To both the poeole above.

You are both right!

I no longer see a shrink by my own choice because they all seem to just listen to what i say and agree with what I feel without any help about making me feel better. I have a few good friends and they do more for me than 1000 shrinks could.

I spend so much time on the net because nobody can see me so they don't judge me before they know me.

but this is not the right forum for this discussion - no offence!

[OpK Chowdy]

oh well.. looks like my mom won't change her mind. no matter what i say...she simply says that i am to immature to manage my own time, therfore she must do it for me. i even printed up documents on a NASA study on videogames that stated "video games help hyperactive and attention-disordered kids to concentrate more." The title of the article was called "better health through video games." Not even logic can sway her so im going to probably be able to squeeze in a mere 1 hour a week playing games if im lucky enough for my mom to go out to the market. I even told my mom that videogames keep me inside and away from drugs and alcohol, she didn't change her mind. i am really irritated with my parents right now. It's a shame i won't be playing much games... especially console-wise. All these new games are coming out for this console that i own (which i shall not name so that there is no console war on this thread!). It also sucks in the pc-gaming realm because of the fact that im FINALLY getting dsl in about a week... oh well. thanks for trying to help me out with the horribly DISGUSTING attitude my parents have towards gaming.

[Paco103]

Drugs and Gangs good
Video Games Bad! :p
get GTA 3 - you get the drugs and gangs IN your video games:D That way it'll balance out to a nuetral effect!

[morpheus kain]

No gaming=lots of partying!!!

[mcool61]

To get what you want, start spending more & more time with your mother, slowly so she won't notice, drop the gaming thing.
Gradually become more obnoxious, annoying, argue with everything she says. Bring home the neighborhood honey. (develop new interests) Buy Tatoo weekly. Soon she will long for the gamer she once knew. Good luck!;)

[morpheus kain]

Yeah bringing home the most notoriously easy chick that you mom knows about is a GOOD:t one. Can't beleive I didn't think of that! -smacks self-

[gibsinep]

Yes then bring her to your bedroom, Say to your Mom

it is either my computer games with me or here.

Well I am chose her depeding on some things age, looks, diseases ect but you get the drift and point. :D

[morpheus kain]

Heh, I can just see my mom now. She thinks I'm actually a well behaved kid LOL. Man she would freak if she only knew 1/100th of the stuff I've done. Heh, tell your mom that since you don't play pc games anymore you thought you needed a girl on the side since you didn't want to spend that much time with your girlfriend. THEN take her to your room. ;)+:-@=:D :r :x

[Dave Myers]

Fact of the matter is, if you want to play games you are going to find a way to play games. Your Mom needs to realize that you may be a 10th grader, but you are a 10th grader with enough testosterone to kill your Dad. You need an OUTLET. Some kids skateboard, others act in drama, still others play football(the kind with pads, not squeeling, mullet wearing greasers being carried off the field on a strecher, only to return on the next substitution.) If you are getting a freaking 4.0, WHAT IS YOUR OCD MOTHER DOING? Is this an Oprah thing? Or does she have an argument to back up her dictorial stance?

Ultimately, you will play games. Be it at your buddies house, or when Mom jets out to the store, you will still do it. Have you tried telling her "at least I won't get anyone pregnant playing video games?"

If all else fails, update her frequently on the number of hours until you graduate and, hence, will be able to play video games again. I found petty annoyance to be an effective negotiation tool when I was a Teen.

Sorry about the soccer rant. I guess I am an ugly American after all.;)

[gibsinep]

" What momma dont know doesn't hurt her.":p :eek: ;)

[bassman]

It's more important to teach children that everything has it's time and place, so they can understand their priorities before they start learning the hard way (in this case, start getting bad grades). In your mparticular case, this means that both gaming and school can coexist peacefully if you don't neglect the most important of them, because if you do you'll be sorry later, believe me. Prove this to your parents and you'll probably game trough the year, no problems ;)

[OpK Chowdy]

well. im just going to complain constantly about my inability to game. I will walk around with little or no enthusiasm or energy. i will periodically leave printed internet articles about the benefits of gaming on the dinner table. my parents don't even let me have a girlfriend (not that that has stopped me) so they wouldn't even let a girl come into my house if there is an obvious relation between us. bringing in the most easy girl in town would mean that im not even allowed in. i also hope to win my dad over to videogames. he likes world war 2 movies and im trying to get him to play dod, once he starts playing it, he'll be hooked. hopefully he will convince my mom to let me play and i will enjoy the bliss of gaming once again.

PS: just curious. anyone here game 1-3 hours a day and get into college? my parents say that it's not possible (i think that's because they are stubborn and narrowminded).

[morpheus kain]

My cousin graduated with a 4.4 GPA and is at UCF right now. He has so many different scholarships he actually gets some money for "living expenses." (he can live like a king off of it too!) This is his first year in college and he already has enough credits to actually have "sophomore" status.

[ukulele]

My cousin graduated with a 4.4 GPA and is at UCF right now

Now thats a good trick. I couldn't get away with that when I was in school. :(

[william_w30]

As a Parent myself I can somewhat see what may be going on... your mother may be using school as an excuse but something is obviously bothering her about you "playing" games on the computer... maybe she is worried your social life will suffer or maybe she's worried some stalker will track you down and snuff you out.. or maybe she's just stressed about something else and wants to spend time with you ... without having to compete for attention..

Maybe she is just a woman!!! no offense intended
but who else can explain why a woman does the things she does etc... most women don't even understand themselves.. although they try and BS you into thinking they do..

Take heart and just sit and listen to your mom... more than likely she does just want to spend time with you...

I'm 35 with a wife and two kids / own my own home and two vehicles and I'm retiring within the next 2 years and its all because of computers... well a little effort too but.... couldn't be doing it slinging burgers at McDonalds..
remind her it serves it own purpose.

[Giblet Plus!]

I can definitely symphasize with you guys. I'm a good student too - I have a 3.9 GPA (My school doesn't do weighted GPAs), I play piano and bassoon (That's an hour and a half a day of practicing) and I pretend to play guitar. I'm in an orchestra, and I don't party or do drugs.
I play between a half hour and an hour of games a day, and attend occasional LAN parties. My parent's freaked when they found out I had been playing CS online (using the cable modem that I'm paying for, no less) They must of thought that CS came with some really good bots! I told them that I didn't see any difference between online and offline play.
The strategy I've had the best luck with is playing less games when they complain, and ramping it up afterwards. :t

[ukulele]

Allright here is a simple solution that may help. Play your games with earphones. Ask yourself "Who wants to listen to that racket for hours at a time. Show some respect , get your work done first and do something nice for mom once in a while, like make a Pretty card or find a recipie for her favorite candy. It's a give and take world. With any luck in the end you will figure this out. ;)

[couch potato]

my parents and sister think i have NO life what so ever (and that might be true:rolleyes: )but i dont care. my dad would smash my comp into bits if he could, but he wont. he said, this year, he is pulling the plug unless i make the grades. dam*:(

[OpK Chowdy]

ill try to do nice things for my mom so that i can play games again. it really sucks to not be able to play games... i'm going to miss a lot of things. gaming is really my favorite hobby. i play games when i am bummed out, stressed out, or just to have fun. my parents are taking an integral part of my life away and it's not fair at all. but i have no choice but to comply.

Also, i don't want to do anything better than i did before games, because that will show that games hinder me. Which they don't. i really think that games help me. i know all i know about computers from games. i would never have built our **** computer if it weren't for knowledge gained by playing games. now, you might think "i have never heard of a game where you learn to build pcs... stop your bs!" well true, there probably isn't a game where you directly learn to do anything in computers other than type. But while i'm immersed in the game, i am immersed in the computer environment. perhaps something goes wrong while im playing? that's troubleshooting (and more specificallly, critical thinking) put to good use trying to solve this problem. suppose i want to play better games? i build a better computer (this takes the ability to follow directions, common sense, and some bargain hunting ;) ) oh well. i come to this thread to just tell you all the one thing you should NOT do to your kids, which is to strip away from them the one thing that makes them happier than anyhting in the world.

[gibsinep]

I think if you can convince your parents on how much you learn from computer games( there are games that make you learn with them) and all the other stuff you have said you may have a chance.

If not bring your computer to a friends house keep it there; then spend all your time at his/her house playing it, your mom will think you have a new best friend and your social life is great when really you are gaming. :x :r :)


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[morpheus kain]

Heh, I don't think his mom is worried about his social life if he isn't "allowed" (yeah right, i know chowdy) to have a GF. Heh, be like me and have your parents so worried about your sanity that they don't wanna mess with you too much:D works wonders. Also, his 4.4GPA is all classes not just academic ones.