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Ankerson
08-01-2002, 10:05 PM
I use WD and Seagate.

I always used WD IDE drives they were the best.

I have used Quantum, Maxtor, and IBM.

I use Seagate SCSI drives and I have a new Seagate Barracuda IV 80gb 7200rpm that a friend gave me.

My Vote goes to Seagate for thier SCSI drives, very fast, quiet and they run cool.

Let's try and keep it nice please, no flames. :D

Lets post some good information. :)

NDD
08-01-2002, 10:30 PM
IDE :
IBM. For speed.
WD. For best overall performance.

SCSI :
Seagate. No explanation required :)

AllGamer
08-01-2002, 10:51 PM
my choices are:

1st - Quantum (now owned by Maxtor)
2nd - Maxtor
3rd - WD
4th - Seagate

same order for both IDE or SCSI

rangeral
08-02-2002, 12:59 AM
Seagate, I have given up on the rest. Hardly hear any complaints about them compared to the rest.

otheos
08-02-2002, 02:48 AM
IDE:
Maxtor - Support, lowest access times (quantum) and great price

SCSI:
Fujitsu

Ankerson
08-02-2002, 07:50 AM
Well sofar we have Seagate and Maxtor tied. :D

AllGamer
08-02-2002, 07:57 AM
Maxtor so far is the only brand with an ATA-133 160 Gig drive.

Could that be a reason?

Ankerson
08-02-2002, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by AllGamer
Maxtor so far is the only brand with an ATA-133 160 Gig drive.

Could that be a reason?

Don't think that's the reason. The difference between ATA 100 and ATA 133 are not even noticeable. No difference at all.

I think it has more to do with personal prefference than anything else.

I tend to stick with the brands that I have not had any issues with.

The old "What works the best for me" rule. ;)

Also Maxtors tend to be alittle cheaper than WD and Seagate. ;)

AllGamer
08-02-2002, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by Ankerson
Also Maxtors tend to be alittle cheaper than WD and Seagate. ;)

that's the most convenient reason. when computer is a toy, nothing better than being able to find the cheapest components to sastify your hunger:D

Ankerson
08-02-2002, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by AllGamer


that's the most convenient reason. when computer is a toy, nothing better than being able to find the cheapest components to sastify your hunger:D

For most people computers are toys.

And when "Joe Average" goes down to the Local Best Buy or CompUsa and looks at Harddrives he will make his purchase based on price or what's on sale that day.

Ankerson
08-02-2002, 08:45 AM
FYI,

Western Digital has a 200 gb drive out.:D

ATA 100 and it comes with a free controller card.

nh3com
08-02-2002, 09:09 AM
Western Digital Caviar 120GB IDE 7200RPM
Special Edition 8MB cache WD1200JB

kick ***

gibsinep
08-02-2002, 09:28 AM
I only use Maxtor and WD, the only reason being I have never had problems with them so I have no reason not to use somthing esle.
:D

AllGamer
08-02-2002, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by Ankerson
FYI,

Western Digital has a 200 gb drive out.:D

ATA 100 and it comes with a free controller card.

Yikes!! ATA-100 only? that's too slow...

you do notice the difference when the drive is larger than 100 gig. when it comes to ATA 100 and 133

i've got another PC with ATA 100, and when i run the 120 gig on that one, it takes slightly longer to access stuff.

compared to the ATA 133 running the 160 gigs

so 200 at 100 might feel quite sluggish, specially a 200 Gig FAT32

Baddog
08-02-2002, 09:38 AM
Maxtor .....plain long dependable and a good price.

Ankerson
08-02-2002, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by AllGamer


Yikes!! ATA-100 only? that's too slow...

you do notice the difference when the drive is larger than 100 gig. when it comes to ATA 100 and 133

i've got another PC with ATA 100, and when i run the 120 gig on that one, it takes slightly longer to access stuff.

compared to the ATA 133 running the 160 gigs

so 200 at 100 might feel quite sluggish, specially a 200 Gig FAT32


Show me the benchmarks that prove that ATA 133 is faster than ATA 133. Transfer rates.

On drives that are the same size, and the same age.

They aren't because of the limites of the IDE BUS.

AllGamer
08-02-2002, 09:58 AM
you mean ata 100 vs ata 133, right?

and on all this hardware thing, i go by the feel not actual speed.

i do the same for video cards, cpus, and sports cars
:D:D

The feel is the greatest power of all :p

morpheus kain
08-02-2002, 10:37 AM
I have a Western Digital 80gb special edition. Mainly because the price is right and most people tend to have good experiences with WD.

rangeral
08-02-2002, 02:38 PM
Looking at the poll seagate seems to be falling behind only because of price and popularity, if you had to stake your important data on a drive then seagate is the best. WD is gaining popularity with there new drives but since there new the jury would still be out on them as far as stability, I'll cede to maxtor since there rma has been very good compared to wd.

Omega2k1
08-02-2002, 02:39 PM
I've like both Maxtor and Seagate. I've got a 5 year old 4gb seagate that has no errors what so ever on it and its still running strong(quiet as hell too)... I would've got a seagate if it wasn't for it costing $20 more which would've meant a month wait for me to get(i just couldn't wait) so i got a Maxtor 40gb 7200rpm drive and it kicks a55(its also quiet, but maybe its just cause i can't hear it from all the fans in my system :p).

Bizkitkid2001
08-02-2002, 02:44 PM
I voted for WD because that is the drive that I am useing now and it is the quietest drive i have had. But I have a 4 year old IBM drive that still runs perfect. Also I have a 4 year old mator drive thats has no problems and a 7 year old 1.5gig maxtor drive that still runs with out any problems.

AllGamer
08-02-2002, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by morpheus kain
I have a Western Digital 80gb special edition. Mainly because the price is right and most people tend to have good experiences with WD.

Special Edition, eh?

What is extra or better than the normal WD 80 Gb??

Midknyte
08-02-2002, 02:47 PM
The special editions have 8mb cache instead of the normal 2mb.

http://www6.tomshardware.com/storage/02q1/020305/index.html

As for the best drives right now:
IDE: Western Digital JB series (the 8mb cache, 7200rpm)
SCSI: Seagate Cheetah

AllGamer
08-02-2002, 02:47 PM
i don't care much about the Brands names anymore after Y2K

now i'm always Aiming for the BIGGEST AND BOLDEST BIG AND FATTY drives.

so if what Ankerson said is right about the WD and the new 200 Gig drives

at least 4 of those will go into my next system. :D

i should be able to live with the slightly slower ATA-100

maybe by then they'll have 500 Gig ATA-166 drives

LOL :r

Ankerson
08-02-2002, 03:37 PM
Stage 1 Serial ATA will be out next year. Stage 2 towards the end of next year.

Serial SCSI will be out also.

iceblue
08-02-2002, 04:07 PM
i can hardly wait.

morpheus kain
08-02-2002, 05:12 PM
Hehe, the mobo I have the drive on doesn't even support ATA33 lmao. In HD Tach I get 13.9ms seek time and 29.1mb a second burst speed. Sux eh?

sm8000
08-02-2002, 05:13 PM
I'm using a 27GB Quantum disk with an IBM sticker on it :p I thought at the time I was buying an IBM disk, having been told they were the best at the time (Jan. 2001). So I voted for "Other"

I'm waiting for Seagate's 120GB w/8MB and Serial ATA. Will any of WD's new huge drives have these features? Also, isn't the Maxtor 160 offered in 5400 rpm only? Just wondering....

Cheers

P.S. any more info on Serial ATA? Like the diff.'s in Stages 1 & 2?

NDD
08-02-2002, 06:22 PM
"First stage" Seriat ATA are 150MB/s.
"Second stage" are 300MB/s.
Of coz it's an interface throughtput, actuall transfer rates will hardly be faster then current fastest 7200RPM drives :rolleyes:
No more fat IDE cables messing inside by box, though :rolleyes: :)

Paco103
08-02-2002, 06:26 PM
My old WD Caviar 853MB drive ran for about 6 years - never lost a bit. Now that I've taken them out of computer and encased in static bags and HD packing foam, neither of them work anymore:( - don't know the deal there - but they both worked fine till the day I replaced them. The only loss I did experience was due to software failure - and I was able to recover it all with drive recovery software - and the drive continued to work fine. I now have a Maxtore Diamond Maxx that I've had for 2 years - sectors are starting to go bad - and performance is degrading - not sure why - but it's still under warrenty - so I'll replace it as soon as I get my new drive. It's quiet - GREAT performance - and until this last few weeks - very reliable. Any ideas on the that? PM me!

Dave Myers
08-02-2002, 07:53 PM
WD

I have had 2 maxtors die on my wife. She still talks about "the time the computer broke durring finals week" as if it was a cataclysmic event that altered the direction of our lives.

I still have a 1 gig WD from 1994, it still works too. I currently have 2 40 gig WD 7200 in Raid 0 with no problems. I defrag once a quarter, and my HDD's just keep on tickin.

Maxtor is probably a fine brand, but when ever the wife and I walk by the maxtors they sell at Costco she starts to shiver.;)

BipolarBill
08-02-2002, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by Ankerson
Stage 1 Serial ATA will be out next year. Stage 2 towards the end of next year.

Serial SCSI will be out also. Serial SCSI? What's the point? Isn't it really serial+parallel now? Is it just for simplifying installation?

I know that the IDE drives will be self-configuring. Very cool. :cool:

Oh - I like WD becase they have the same initials as yours truly. :D

pandaz3
08-02-2002, 10:37 PM
IBM as they were fastest and cheapest at the time. My old computer did have a drive go bad after a couple of years, but I replaced it with a 4.0 Gig WD for $300 and it still works. I bouhgt the 40.0 Gig IBM ayear ago under $100.

Ankerson
08-02-2002, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by BipolarBill
Serial SCSI? What's the point? Isn't it really serial+parallel now? Is it just for simplifying installation?

I know that the IDE drives will be self-configuring. Very cool. :cool:

Oh - I like WD becase they have the same initials as yours truly. :D

You have a point there. :D

I am wondering the same thing. I like SCSI just the way it is now.;)

BipolarBill
08-03-2002, 12:21 AM
I think it's just the leapfrog game. The SCSI group doesn't pass up a chance to stay two steps ahead of the IDE group.

It would be amazing if serial SCSI institutes auto-termination and self-configuring IDs. That would remove every roadblock except the cost. Every SysAdmin would be crying for SCSI all day then because they wouldn't have to configure it anymore. All they would have to do is get procurement to cough up the dough.

More $$$$ for the SCSI team!

otheos
08-03-2002, 03:05 AM
Serial ATA is nice, it's gonna sort out the longly outstanding cabling/termination issues of IDE. Other than that, nothing much :( (i.e no disconnection, tag queuing etc, still a FIFO device).

Serial SCSI is already here: Fiber :)

carltonyuk
08-05-2002, 03:50 PM
I have used Western Digital as they are well priced and reliable. Why change when you're happy with what you have. :D

irpnet
08-05-2002, 06:02 PM
I have Seagate (80Gb), IBM (120Gb) and Maxtor(20Gb) installed in my PC.

I do not like Quantum drives (access times are **** generally).

WD drives are pretty good and have a good turn of speed.
IBM's are speedy and large!! :)
Seagate are trusty reliable old steeds.
Maxtor good price/performance ratio.
Quantum's work, but fast they aint.

Just my personal opinions.

Ted Mathews
08-05-2002, 09:20 PM
Used to use WD but when the stock crashed in 97 so did my taste for wd. Maxtor seemed a well run company, good product, good support. My current Maxtor drive is actually a Quantum Fireball, have had no probs in 2 yrs. Probably use WD agian maybe soon.
:cool: :cool: :cool:

AllGamer
08-05-2002, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by BipolarBill
I think it's just the leapfrog game. The SCSI group doesn't pass up a chance to stay two steps ahead of the IDE group.

It would be amazing if serial SCSI institutes auto-termination and self-configuring IDs. That would remove every roadblock except the cost. Every SysAdmin would be crying for SCSI all day then because they wouldn't have to configure it anymore. All they would have to do is get procurement to cough up the dough.

More $$$$ for the SCSI team!

I don't mind the ID part, i always liked to be able to manually specify what i want.

but the Auto TErmination is totally a good perk, if they can make it for anything else, other than the controller itself.

mcool61
08-05-2002, 10:16 PM
I know a guy that had his kid throw a western digital across the room & it still works.

When I built my computer I checked web sites etc., liked maxtors support-diagnostics etc. so I went to STAPLES & bought a 20g Maxtor. Inside was a Quantum. ok drive but not what I paid for. Incidentally maxtor bought quantum but their diagnostics ect. won't work with the quantum. In other words not the same level of support & documentation.

I have a maxtor 6 gig I killed with a vibrating cdrom while trying to install software. Being thick headed I hooked up my old Western digital & it locked up too. Then it finally dawned on me it was the high frequency vibration from the cdrom transmitted thru the drive cage. Laid the WD in the bottom of the case. OK:D
Maxtor died, Western Digital revived.

morpheus kain
08-05-2002, 10:32 PM
That makes me feel a lot better about my Western Digital HD. If somebody threw my HD it might survive, but whomever threw it would be in a couple Ziplock's heading out to the couty dump the next morning.:x

Fishsauce
08-06-2002, 01:35 AM
Heard good reviews about Maxtor. I got my Maxtor 40GB for $50.

Ankerson
08-07-2002, 07:27 AM
Originally posted by mcool61
I know a guy that had his kid throw a western digital across the room & it still works.



Anyone who would throw a HD is a total idiot and needs to be horse whipped.

And banned from ever using a computer for the rest of their life becuse they are too stupid to own one. :r

BipolarBill
08-07-2002, 10:26 AM
Ankerson speaks!

http://www.gunslinger.com/gunfight.gif

http://www.uniquehardware.co.uk/server-smilies/contrib/Bizkit/sweat.gif

Ankerson
08-08-2002, 06:29 AM
BipolarBill,

LMAO :D :t

Bigjakkstaffa
08-08-2002, 07:17 AM
Seagate, first PC i ever had came with a Seagate Medalist HDD, and ive used em ever since. They also tend to be very nicely priced if you look about a bit :)

--Jakk:t

aferrari
08-08-2002, 09:16 AM
Actually i use an 30gb Seagate barracuda 7200 and a 20gb WD ATA100, both are good discs and fasts.
i think wd, seagate, maxtor and IBM are all good.
in the past i used an 100mb HD Fujitsu with very good results.

Ammok
08-08-2002, 05:36 PM
Maxtor...reliable fast and cheap:D

Ted Mathews
08-08-2002, 11:21 PM
Maxtor pullin ahead in the polls. Looks like cheap fast and passibly reliable is winning out.

I once knew a couple of girls who had those same charateristics, I think they won out too.

:D :cool: :D