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Keaton82

07-31-2002, 11:44 PM

I seem to have a problem with designing web pages in word 2000. I create a page in word and save it. I then open it up in notepad and I get very confused because there is all this garbage text that word adds to the file. It doesn't look like html markup. It looks like document properties. Is there anyway to get rid of it?
This is a partial example of the garbage text.

<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<w:WordDocument>
<w:View>Normal</w:View>
<w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom>
</w:WordDocument>
Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{mso-style-parent:"";
margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
mso-pagination:widow-orphan;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";}
@page Section1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;
mso-header-margin:.5in;
mso-footer-margin:.5in;
mso-paper-source:0;}
div.Section1
{page:Section1;}

Also, does anyone know of a good resource for learning how to design web sites?

AllGamer

08-01-2002, 12:02 AM

Use Macro Media Dream Weaber
or any other brand, but microsoft.

and you'll noticed a big time difference

Gobi

08-01-2002, 09:21 AM

Hi there!

If you ever want to learn how to do webpages properly,
forget about all those WYSIWYG editors like frontpage, word,
dreamweaver(although that one is good for its purposes).
Use a text editor, and learn how to write the code yourself.
Its easy, and it gives you full control over what happens
where and when.

There is a lot of html tutorials around the net.

My 2 cents
GObi.

bassman

08-01-2002, 12:52 PM

Woird is highly unrecommendable for web design, for many reasons, but mainly because it sucks :p If you wanna start out slow, use a WYSIWYG editor like MS Frontpage or Dreamweaver, and keep checking the HTML code they generate. Additionally, go to W3 Schools (http://www.w3schools.com) and start learning HTML so you can interpretate the resulting code and edit it your own way

Keaton82

08-01-2002, 06:37 PM

Thanks everyone.

qball

08-02-2002, 01:06 AM

Thanks, Bill!

Save as text???

Lol, a way around this, is save as Word6 or less, then take to Word6 and save as HTML. The earlier versions of word, saved html in 'html' better than newer version.

rick42

08-02-2002, 10:33 PM

I agree with Gobi. Use any good text editor that only stores the text you type in.
Learn HTML from http://www.w3c.org and other places.
Once you get a feel for HTML, then slide into some Javascript to fancy it up a little.
From there, who knows.... XML, SOAP, etc. Good luck. :t

Gobi

08-05-2002, 06:07 AM

I also recomend to stay away from Frontpage too.
It generates almost as mutch shi**y code that
Word produces. If you want any good links for
tutorials on HTML, send me an PM and I'll give you
a list, and any help that I can provide.

If you want to see one of my sites, check out
my "Gobi & Huba's Kingdom" page. Its easy made,
with a few frames, and standard html with tables
to keep it all neath and tight.

its located at:
http://www.ringdalen.net/orcs/index.html
(Its a site about Final Realms, LP-MUD).

Later
Gobi.

DocEvi1

08-05-2002, 09:16 AM

What do you use Frontpage for? If you use it for simple layout tools, and entering text it is quite good. The code that Fireworks/Dreamweaver isn't that much better anyway - it is a common mistake that people make. Just because a prog is "easier" to make better designs doesn't mean that code is up to scratch. I have seen many a site with bloated tables made by Dreamweaver (I guess they didn't know how to use to properly (I don't either) so couldn't optimise properly).

Stefan

AltatemTC

08-05-2002, 11:12 AM

Do you know HTML?
If so may I recommend Visual Notepad :x as a beginning editor. Seriously, if you know HTML and want to understand the code, start with notepad.

Later you can move up to a full-featured HTML editor and understand what they are doing. By the by, if you go to one of the many download sites, like ZDNet or TuCows, and search for HTML editors, you are bound to find some relatively inexpensive and maybe free HTML editors.