bob05
07-18-2002, 08:58 AM
If I burn 323 megs on a CD-R that has a capasity of 700 meg, shouldn't I be able to come back at a later date and burn 377? I can't.:confused:
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SPEEDO
07-18-2002, 09:18 AM
You need to leave the session open.
If you close the session that's all that can be burned to the CD..:t
SPEEDO
If you close the session that's all that can be burned to the CD..:t
SPEEDO
elroy
07-18-2002, 09:22 AM
You'll need to leave the session open and the disk open. Also anytime you add to a cd you'll lose maybe 50-100mb of space in between the sessions.
otheos
07-18-2002, 10:21 AM
No, no no!
You need to close the session (otherwise it will be only readable in the CDRW drive) but leave the disc open. Also you must state that the disc is going to be multisession to begin with. When you add data you need to import the previous session.
You need to close the session (otherwise it will be only readable in the CDRW drive) but leave the disc open. Also you must state that the disc is going to be multisession to begin with. When you add data you need to import the previous session.
Mutant_Donkey
07-18-2002, 04:16 PM
you also need to have multivolume support if you want to acess data previously written on disk.
kazuza
07-18-2002, 06:12 PM
Why don't you format a CD-RW disk in Direct CD?
Pure Plug n' Play...
...Just like a floppy!
Erase... add... delete... add.. read (UDF Reader)... write... read... delete... addd.............................................. ..
Don't make it difficult to yourself. When the media is full and you don't want to lose any data, copy it's contents to a CD-R! Then, delete it, and you're ready to roll again...
Pure Plug n' Play...
...Just like a floppy!
Erase... add... delete... add.. read (UDF Reader)... write... read... delete... addd.............................................. ..
Don't make it difficult to yourself. When the media is full and you don't want to lose any data, copy it's contents to a CD-R! Then, delete it, and you're ready to roll again...
rwinegar
07-19-2002, 03:30 PM
You can't add 377 MB. You need to leave some room for the header or table of contents.
AllGamer
07-19-2002, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by bob05
If I burn 323 megs on a CD-R that has a capasity of 700 meg, shouldn't I be able to come back at a later date and burn 377? I can't.:confused:
No you cannot, if you want to be able to read it right away in a normal cd rom
Unless you use a CD+RW DISK on a CD+RW drive.
Also, almost forgot to mention...
CD+R = 1 time write
CD+RW = write and erase as many times as you want
i've some CD-RW disk that have been erased and recorded over for more than 50 times and they are still able to erase and record again.
If I burn 323 megs on a CD-R that has a capasity of 700 meg, shouldn't I be able to come back at a later date and burn 377? I can't.:confused:
No you cannot, if you want to be able to read it right away in a normal cd rom
Unless you use a CD+RW DISK on a CD+RW drive.
Also, almost forgot to mention...
CD+R = 1 time write
CD+RW = write and erase as many times as you want
i've some CD-RW disk that have been erased and recorded over for more than 50 times and they are still able to erase and record again.
bob05
07-19-2002, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by otheos
No, no no!
You need to close the session (otherwise it will be only readable in the CDRW drive) but leave the disc open. Also you must state that the disc is going to be multisession to begin with. When you add data you need to import the previous session.
thanks all. now the reson I want to do this on a CD-R is becasue the computer i'm burning the CD for can't read CD-RW's. Now using Windows Xp's buring software(:eek: :eek: :eek: ) how do I (if possible) do mutli sessions and/or format the CD-RW to work in a regular CD rom?
No, no no!
You need to close the session (otherwise it will be only readable in the CDRW drive) but leave the disc open. Also you must state that the disc is going to be multisession to begin with. When you add data you need to import the previous session.
thanks all. now the reson I want to do this on a CD-R is becasue the computer i'm burning the CD for can't read CD-RW's. Now using Windows Xp's buring software(:eek: :eek: :eek: ) how do I (if possible) do mutli sessions and/or format the CD-RW to work in a regular CD rom?
AllGamer
07-19-2002, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by bob05
thanks all. now the reson I want to do this on a CD-R is becasue the computer i'm burning the CD for can't read CD-RW's. Now using Windows Xp's buring software(:eek: :eek: :eek: ) how do I (if possible) do mutli sessions and/or format the CD-RW to work in a regular CD rom?
Any software can do that
my preference is NERO
so far from all the other ones i've tried
it's the most solid one.
and what used to be my old time favorite
is Corel CD Creator Pro, now it's bought by Roxy, previously by Adaptec, and some other companies
man that software has passed throught waaaaaaay too many companies.
part of the why i stopped using it.
Oh by the way ANY CD ROM after 1997
should have no problem reading CDRW Disks
make this distintion clear
there is:
- CDRW Disc compatibility issues with CD drives before 1997
and there is
- CDRW format Reading issues with any other CD drives after 1997.
The first problem has no fix except for getting a new drive.
but for the 2nd case, well you can do either of this:
- get a UDF format reader for the machine that want to read the CD
- get burn the CD as a normal CD and not a CDRW cd
- or something else, which at the moment it eludes my memory cuz i was typing, eating, and dealing with a customer here at work
not to mention i was listening to music and stuff.
yup i like multitasking
lets see if when the computers can do the same.
hehehehe
:D
thanks all. now the reson I want to do this on a CD-R is becasue the computer i'm burning the CD for can't read CD-RW's. Now using Windows Xp's buring software(:eek: :eek: :eek: ) how do I (if possible) do mutli sessions and/or format the CD-RW to work in a regular CD rom?
Any software can do that
my preference is NERO
so far from all the other ones i've tried
it's the most solid one.
and what used to be my old time favorite
is Corel CD Creator Pro, now it's bought by Roxy, previously by Adaptec, and some other companies
man that software has passed throught waaaaaaay too many companies.
part of the why i stopped using it.
Oh by the way ANY CD ROM after 1997
should have no problem reading CDRW Disks
make this distintion clear
there is:
- CDRW Disc compatibility issues with CD drives before 1997
and there is
- CDRW format Reading issues with any other CD drives after 1997.
The first problem has no fix except for getting a new drive.
but for the 2nd case, well you can do either of this:
- get a UDF format reader for the machine that want to read the CD
- get burn the CD as a normal CD and not a CDRW cd
- or something else, which at the moment it eludes my memory cuz i was typing, eating, and dealing with a customer here at work
not to mention i was listening to music and stuff.
yup i like multitasking
lets see if when the computers can do the same.
hehehehe
:D
andyboy110
07-20-2002, 01:24 AM
some cdrom drives dont read multisession disks.
AllGamer
07-20-2002, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by andyboy110
some cdrom drives dont read multisession disks.
that's what i said, the ones before 1997
and even if that's the case you can always Burn a CDRW as a CD, and it works
and yet you can still erase and re-use after you are done.
some cdrom drives dont read multisession disks.
that's what i said, the ones before 1997
and even if that's the case you can always Burn a CDRW as a CD, and it works
and yet you can still erase and re-use after you are done.
otheos
07-20-2002, 02:57 AM
Why don't you format a CD-RW disk in Direct CD? Pure Plug n' Play... ...Just like a floppy! Erase... add... delete... add.. read (UDF Reader)... write... read... delete... addd.............................................. .. Don't make it difficult to yourself. When the media is full and you don't want to lose any data, copy it's contents to a CD-R! Then, delete it, and you're ready to roll again...
Now this is what I'm talking about. DirectCD (or similar) is proprietary. This means it needs specific reader to read a disc, and can be only done within windows. On top it messes with your installation of other CD burning tools.
There is no reason to use any proprietary stuff as everything you need to do exists in the CD-R book.
No you cannot, if you want to be able to read it right away in a normal cd rom
Of course you can. There is no difference between CDRW and CDR when it comes to burn data, only the media is different.
You can make a multisession CD-R in the same way you make a CDRW. Just understand that for every added session you lose some space on the disc (increasing for each session, starting from 14MB). Still you can easily do it.
Now using Windows Xp's buring softwarehow do I (if possible) do mutli sessions and/or format the CD-RW to work in a regular CD rom?
That's the problem with oversimplified, powerless proprietary software. You don't even know what ISO level or Mode this thing is using. Get yourself a proper tool like Nero and don't use the XP junk. In Nero it's straight forward.
Now this is what I'm talking about. DirectCD (or similar) is proprietary. This means it needs specific reader to read a disc, and can be only done within windows. On top it messes with your installation of other CD burning tools.
There is no reason to use any proprietary stuff as everything you need to do exists in the CD-R book.
No you cannot, if you want to be able to read it right away in a normal cd rom
Of course you can. There is no difference between CDRW and CDR when it comes to burn data, only the media is different.
You can make a multisession CD-R in the same way you make a CDRW. Just understand that for every added session you lose some space on the disc (increasing for each session, starting from 14MB). Still you can easily do it.
Now using Windows Xp's buring softwarehow do I (if possible) do mutli sessions and/or format the CD-RW to work in a regular CD rom?
That's the problem with oversimplified, powerless proprietary software. You don't even know what ISO level or Mode this thing is using. Get yourself a proper tool like Nero and don't use the XP junk. In Nero it's straight forward.
AllGamer
07-20-2002, 03:06 AM
Originally posted by otheos
Now this is what I'm talking about. DirectCD (or similar) is proprietary. This means it needs specific reader to read a disc, and can be only done within windows. On top it messes with your installation of other CD burning tools.
There is no reason to use any proprietary stuff as everything you need to do exists in the CD-R book.
Of course you can. There is no difference between CDRW and CDR when it comes to burn data, only the media is different.
You can make a multisession CD-R in the same way you make a CDRW. Just understand that for every added session you lose some space on the disc (increasing for each session, starting from 14MB). Still you can easily do it.
That's the problem with oversimplified, powerless proprietary software. You don't even know what ISO level or Mode this thing is using. Get yourself a proper tool like Nero and don't use the XP junk. In Nero it's straight forward.
That's what i've telling these guys all day long, and they can't understand the concept of the Media / Format / Software indirect relation.
in which all these "problems" have a simple and easy work around, if you know what you are doing
and for that to happend you need something decent like NERO.
Now this is what I'm talking about. DirectCD (or similar) is proprietary. This means it needs specific reader to read a disc, and can be only done within windows. On top it messes with your installation of other CD burning tools.
There is no reason to use any proprietary stuff as everything you need to do exists in the CD-R book.
Of course you can. There is no difference between CDRW and CDR when it comes to burn data, only the media is different.
You can make a multisession CD-R in the same way you make a CDRW. Just understand that for every added session you lose some space on the disc (increasing for each session, starting from 14MB). Still you can easily do it.
That's the problem with oversimplified, powerless proprietary software. You don't even know what ISO level or Mode this thing is using. Get yourself a proper tool like Nero and don't use the XP junk. In Nero it's straight forward.
That's what i've telling these guys all day long, and they can't understand the concept of the Media / Format / Software indirect relation.
in which all these "problems" have a simple and easy work around, if you know what you are doing
and for that to happend you need something decent like NERO.
bob05
07-20-2002, 11:28 AM
I have Easy CD Creator and Direct CD but nither works on XP ( even the patches don't work!:rolleyes: ), i'll just see what I can do as far as buying new software. Also the computer I am burning for has an Asus 52x Max CD-Rom, and I got it in a barebone about a mounth ago. I'll fiddle some more around and post here when I get another problem. Thanxs all :t
AllGamer
07-21-2002, 02:50 AM
Originally posted by bob05
I have Easy CD Creator and Direct CD but nither works on XP ( even the patches don't work!:rolleyes: ), i'll just see what I can do as far as buying new software. Also the computer I am burning for has an Asus 52x Max CD-Rom, and I got it in a barebone about a mounth ago. I'll fiddle some more around and post here when I get another problem. Thanxs all :t
Just get NERO, its free for try, if you do decide to keep it after the Unlock you get tons of features.
NERO is the most famous and best freelance CDRW + DVD R software
yes the newest verison works with DVDRs also.
too bad i don't have a DVDR drive yet.
for now the prices are still abit Steep.
and besides what i'm really waiting for is for them to release DVD-RW
now that will kick some serious recordings around.
:D
i can just forget about my HDDs by then
geez 5 gig each DVD
and if they use the new sony+etc+etc format of DSDD then that becomes 10 gig 5 on each side at least.
since the DSDD can inclease the size from the default 5 to about 8 on a single side
I have Easy CD Creator and Direct CD but nither works on XP ( even the patches don't work!:rolleyes: ), i'll just see what I can do as far as buying new software. Also the computer I am burning for has an Asus 52x Max CD-Rom, and I got it in a barebone about a mounth ago. I'll fiddle some more around and post here when I get another problem. Thanxs all :t
Just get NERO, its free for try, if you do decide to keep it after the Unlock you get tons of features.
NERO is the most famous and best freelance CDRW + DVD R software
yes the newest verison works with DVDRs also.
too bad i don't have a DVDR drive yet.
for now the prices are still abit Steep.
and besides what i'm really waiting for is for them to release DVD-RW
now that will kick some serious recordings around.
:D
i can just forget about my HDDs by then
geez 5 gig each DVD
and if they use the new sony+etc+etc format of DSDD then that becomes 10 gig 5 on each side at least.
since the DSDD can inclease the size from the default 5 to about 8 on a single side
otheos
07-21-2002, 03:06 AM
and besides what i'm really waiting for is for them to release DVD-RW now that will kick some serious recordings around. i can just forget about my HDDs by then geez 5 gig each DVD and if they use the new sony+etc+etc format of DSDD then that becomes 10 gig 5 on each side at least. since the DSDD can inclease the size from the default 5 to about 8 on a single side
Hehe, actually, DVD-R and -RW came out together. It was the competing DVD+RW that came out without ability for +R (write once) but they caught up now.
The capacity is actually 4.3GB and sony doesn't really fit in here as they use either Pioneer or Ricoh drives and have no active R&D in DVD technology. DSDD is not DVD compliant so the capacities you refer to are not relevant (where did you read tha?). DVD comes in single and dual layer, for a max of 18GB (9 per side).
Hehe, actually, DVD-R and -RW came out together. It was the competing DVD+RW that came out without ability for +R (write once) but they caught up now.
The capacity is actually 4.3GB and sony doesn't really fit in here as they use either Pioneer or Ricoh drives and have no active R&D in DVD technology. DSDD is not DVD compliant so the capacities you refer to are not relevant (where did you read tha?). DVD comes in single and dual layer, for a max of 18GB (9 per side).
AllGamer
07-22-2002, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by otheos
Hehe, actually, DVD-R and -RW came out together. It was the competing DVD+RW that came out without ability for +R (write once) but they caught up now.
The capacity is actually 4.3GB and sony doesn't really fit in here as they use either Pioneer or Ricoh drives and have no active R&D in DVD technology. DSDD is not DVD compliant so the capacities you refer to are not relevant (where did you read tha?). DVD comes in single and dual layer, for a max of 18GB (9 per side).
That's something that never caught up with their CDRW drives working at dual capacidy.
If they are fast enough on imprementing this on DVD RW, and not release it so **** late as they did with the CDRW, then drives sizes can double way more
Hehe, actually, DVD-R and -RW came out together. It was the competing DVD+RW that came out without ability for +R (write once) but they caught up now.
The capacity is actually 4.3GB and sony doesn't really fit in here as they use either Pioneer or Ricoh drives and have no active R&D in DVD technology. DSDD is not DVD compliant so the capacities you refer to are not relevant (where did you read tha?). DVD comes in single and dual layer, for a max of 18GB (9 per side).
That's something that never caught up with their CDRW drives working at dual capacidy.
If they are fast enough on imprementing this on DVD RW, and not release it so **** late as they did with the CDRW, then drives sizes can double way more
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