DOOM III Can you.....

[Toxic_Tweekie]

When this baby comes out, not soon enough, will your OS handle it. Will you have to upgrade? Or, will you have to get a whole new system. I'm taking the latter. Because it gonna be a great game and it's a **** good excuse. The more PC's you have the better!!!

[$1500-P4 gamer]

Depends on how tight the coding is! If its like most of the newer games you will need the fastest cpu available. Its a joke how sloppy these programmers are!:( :t

[grimfandango]

WHEn doom 3 comes out you and you wan to play it you will need a fast CPU/a very powerful video card..

AS for OS I think it work on 98/xp
:t

[iceblue]

hmm.. u think itll be too much for a pentium3?:(

[grimfandango]

Originally posted by iceblue
hmm.. u think itll be too much for a pentium3?:(

tooo much!!

it wont run on a p3 450-700mhz!!
:(

I got a 450mhz!
:(

[Bigjakkstaffa]

P3's go up to 1.4ghz now, so depending on what chip you have and the rest of your system,as long as its a high end chip, you should be okay on a P3 system id have thought :)

--Jakk:t

[Optimus Prime]

you know, if those damned coders spent more time coding and less time eating pizza and drinking beer we could run morrowind on a 700mhz machine full details.

but OHH NOOOOO they have a 'silent' contract with hardware developers, no one says anything its just like:

'well, if we dont code good then they'll have to buy hardware'

'if they buy our hardware we'll make more money'

oh fantastic :|

look at the play station if you disagree with me, that CONSOLE was out for 5 years before it was scrapped, it kept on getting updated, look at the original wipeout graphics and a fairly 'new' playstation game. if programmers had the will to do this, we would win in the 'CONSOLES ARE BETTER THAN PC'S COS WERE NOOBS!' argument.

[$1500-P4 gamer]

I totally agree optimus prime. And consels are proof all of them are. I mean they prove that you can have limited Hardare and no upgrades but yet still keep pumping out the good games and graphics. The sony PSX is a good point, look how weak the Hardware is in it! And the Xbox is a P3 700mhz for crying out loud and look at the games.:t

[Mutant_Donkey]

whats the resolution of a TV ? 320*240 ?

[JuNacy]

I remember reading John Carmack saying that the Xbox is the only console that can handle Doom 3. Although it won't look quite as sharp as its PC counterpart, it's quite an amazing feat if you think about it.

[Bizkitkid2001]

DOOM 3 will be able to run on a 800MHz G3 mac with a geforce 3.
It will also run on a 1.2GHz pentium3 with a geforce 3.

[Kurylo]

I think anything more than (and including) a P3-700MHz (+) and GF3 (+) could run this game smoothly.
Don't be so messy with Doom3. It looks so great because it actively uses BUMP MAPPING, and the quantity of the polygons isn't too much. So, I think the CPU may not be the latest among Intel-compatibles.

[Joe Bronie]

Well, it's all speculation at this point. It's easy to say that it could run on setup A or setup B smoothly, but no one's going to know until it's released. Sure, Carmack could say that it should run smoothly on this setup and what not, but I want to see it for myself.

[Bizkitkid2001]

I know I'm right because I've seen it in action running on the two systems I listed above.

When they released the Geforce 3 in 2001 they were running it in a Mac and PC with the same speeds as above. And too show off its power they ran a little demo of doom 3 on it. That is how I know it WILL run on the setups I listed above.;)

[Joe Bronie]

I see your point but those were only demos, not the completed game. Hell, they even ran Doom 3 demos on the Xbox as well, and it ran pretty smooth. So it's hard to say for sure if it will really run as well as it should on those setups. I mean, if it ran the Xbox, it should run good on any setup similar to what the Xbox has and stronger. But things don't always work out that way. That's why I reserve my judgement until the game is released. I'm not saying that it won't run smoothly on those setups, not at all, I just want to reserve my judgement until I see the finished product.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

They ran doom3 on the x box, because theyre intending an X box release, therefore i reckon if it can run on the X box (no matter how ugly it may look), it should do the same on what is more or less an equally specced PC

--JAkk:t

[grimfandango]

IF DOOM 3 comes out for the X-BOX it should come out fot the PS2 too!!!

:)

[Optimus Prime]

1) the PS2 is weaker

2) the PS2 has no friends ;)

3) its never gonna be released as it wouldnt sell many copies.

[grimfandango]

It will never work on a Game-cube!!!
But its fair..The Xbox runs much slower than a 1.6ghz with gf3 ti 500.
But you can play the x-box version much better and faster!

:(

[Bizkitkid2001]

Originally posted by grimfandango
The Xbox runs much slower than a 1.6ghz with gf3 ti 500.


But the xbox doesn't have to run a full OS and other programs while playing a game, thats why it runs better.

[JuNacy]

I agree, the gamecube is not an option when it comes to Doom 3. Carmack said that the only console that could handle it was the Xbox. I also remember reading how he wasn't too fond of the PS2's hardware anyhow. Even if it was ported to the PS2, I bet it would look craptacular. I mean has anyone seen the PS2 version of Max Payne? Ouch...

[grimfandango]

ohh yea Maxpayne for Ps2 was so bad!! It ran much better on pc.!!

But I think maxpayne will work better than pc on the Xbox!!

[JuNacy]

I've played the Xbox version of Max Payne and it looks pretty good. Not quite as sharp as the PC version, but it still looks mighty clean and runs smooth, especially when compared to the PS2 one.

[Beeblequix]

I'm sure that the systems Bizkitkid SAW it running on will suffice just fine. As of today, few games are bottlenecked by the cpu anyway (I know, Camache 4 uses a ton of cpu over gpu, but that's a completely different type of game). For examle, I've seen benchmarks as recent as this week doing newer UT builds that show significantly diminished returns over 1.4Ghz cpu. What this translates into for those who do not know, is that once you have anything over 1.4Ghz, the returns are flatlined, and furtherance of cpu is unnceccary. This also translates into a high priority for a **** good video card. Also, the system he's to be using will feature an ATI 9700 + P4 2.53 Northwood to emphasise how good this game CAN look at maximum settings. You don't HAVE TO run it at full throttle. Just use the standard 1024x768 res, use medium textures if needs be, don't use 8 tap anisotropic filtering, use bilinear not trilinear, etc. The game will certainly tell you recommended system configuration, but they'll take into account the average enthusiast level system, not the creme de la creme sytems which less than 2% of the market owns.

Also, if there's any group of programmers and developers on the planet who knows how to make good code it's John Carmak and his employees. I know that his new Doom III engine is very advanced, but they'll do it right. Mr. Carmak is the reason we're enjoying such good stuff now. He's certainly the spearhead in the gaming world. Frankly, he knows what he's doing.

ßeeßle Qµix

[bmxer]

well imma be upgrading my system soon so by the time it comes out i will have a decent rig to play it on

[Joe Bronie]

I still reserve my judgement until the game is completed, but I have no doubts whatsoever that Carmack will deliver the goods.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

A'men - looks fantastic and im hoping it will play twice as good as it looks :)

--Jakk:t

[grimfandango]

yea by the time doom 3 comes out we will need new systems!!
:( :)

[Joe Bronie]

Originally posted by grimfandango
yea by the time doom 3 comes out we will need new systems!!
:( :)

Well, I could use a new graphics card. I'm eyeing up the Radeon 9700. From what I've been reading it's a beast of a card.

[grimfandango]

Originally posted by Joe Bronie


Well, I could use a new graphics card. I'm eyeing up the Radeon 9700. From what I've been reading it's a beast of a card.

you can pre oder it right now!!
:)

[JuNacy]

Hmmm, Radeon 9700. Been reading about that as well. I want one of those!!:)

[grimfandango]

the ATI 9700 costs 399$ !!!

the gf4 ti4600 costs only 295$!
:)

[fluffycow]

I hope it runs good on my tnt2, I got this card only a little while ago (5 months) and I dont want to upgrade already.... We'll see..... ;)

[iceblue]

Hmmm, Radeon 9700. Been reading about that as well. I want one of those!!:)

its only 2x/4x agp support, id rather wait for a nice 8x.

[fluffycow]

ARe you sure? I thought all the reviews I read yesterday I thought said it had agp 8X support. I don't see the point anyway, there arn't any mobo's that support 8X(that I know of).

[Bizkitkid2001]

The new Radeon 9700 has 8X agp support.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

From what ND was saying the only 8x card at the mo is to be fanrk - **** -- apparently it only gets an extra 100 3dmarks.

Apparrently the differece between 2x and 4x is only small alos -- so AGP speed is hardly the most important thing...

--Jakk:t

[grimfandango]

Originally posted by fluffycow
I hope it runs good on my tnt2, I got this card only a little while ago (5 months) and I dont want to upgrade already.... We'll see..... ;)

AM sory to tell you this But Doom 3 wont work on your card..

It wont work my g2mx200 64mb card too!!

:(



fluffycow
iceblue
you both look same!!I get confused sometimes! Are you guys brothers??
:confused: :p

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Yeah - tahst the downside of lettign newbies have Av's, theyve gt such a limited choice we have to read their ames to work out who's who :(

...honestly - i remember the days when we had to POST to get our avatars


--Jakk:t

[grimfandango]

The Gf4ti4600 will be enough for any game of the future for atlest 3-4 years!!

Dont think we should pay 100-120$ for the ATI 9700!

Bigjakkstaffa
I think one of them needs to change their AVAtar!!
:p :t

[fluffycow]

Actually, on another thread I was talking to iceblue about how the cow avatar is mine. :) It fits me so well, I don't want to give it up. When I can get my custom one ill think of something else.

[iceblue]

as i was surfing along the threads, i noticed another guy with the cow avatar. go scream to him about it.

[grimfandango]

I am not screaming at anyone!!

:)

[TiGgErDbC]

from what i heard, the 8 time agp just allows 2 gb/s transfer instead of 1 gb/s..... they were saying thats still a lot of bottle next, witch sound right cause of tsome of the numbers these cards have.... but anyways i also belive i read theres goign to be a floppy power connecter on the CARD cause of the power the 8x agp needs.... THATS SICK.... lol i dont know if i read right but i'm about 97% sure. i read it on tomshardware...... goign to go take a look again :P

[grimfandango]

Originally posted by TiGgErDbC
from what i heard, the 8 time agp just allows 2 gb/s transfer instead of 1 gb/s..... they were saying thats still a lot of bottle next, witch sound right cause of tsome of the numbers these cards have.... but anyways i also belive i read theres goign to be a floppy power connecter on the CARD cause of the power the 8x agp needs.... THATS SICK.... lol i dont know if i read right but i'm about 97% sure. i read it on tomshardware...... goign to go take a look again :P

yea just like the old voodoo 5 cards need extra power suply!!


But I think the new Nvidia cards will not need this exrta power!
:confused: :)

[fluffycow]

lol, I can't believe there was a time when I marveled at the voodoo 5..... I heard the radeon 9700 performs about 50 % better at 1024*1280 on some stuff. It also has full DX9 support, and much faster anti alising and anistronscopic filtering. They're also using floating point llighting instead of integer, which makes it so instead of 256 levels of lighting, theres a number of light levels only limited by the amount of shades of a color your screen can display, and the video card supports. As an added bonus, the pixel shaders in it are programmable enough to allow cg program shaders to be run on the card (renderman and shaders like that). Ive heard that this can make the frame rate 10* as high when rendering. Read the reviews for yourselves, theres a lot of them.

This thing just might be worth its 400 dollar price tag......

[couch potato]

2.4 Ghz P4, GF4 Ti 4400...........has problems though:(

[Bigjakkstaffa]

You HAVE PROBLEMS??:eek:

On that setup!!, what kinda problems...

--Jakk:t

[grimfandango]

what kind of problems??
:eek: