PC-Chips/Amptron M748LMRT Motherboard

[jwilson]

I have a M748LMRT motherboard. The 400mhz Celeron has died. My 1 year old manual indicates a Socket 370 Celeron up to 600mhz. Does anyone know the maximum speed CPU (and package) that this board will support ?

Thanks.

[Peter M]

Depends on how old it is. Early revisions can only take the original (black) Celeron in the socket, while later ones also take the green ones.

All revisions support up to "Coppermine" processors in the slot (with a slocket if necessary), no Tualatins, no 133 MHz bus models.

regards, Peter

[$1500-P4 gamer]

I've got the same board for my mom. Its now running a CeleronII 800mhz cpu. Thats the fastest Cel. I think it will run. But heck it out benches the P3 750mhz at half the price so who cares! Make sure you update the bios though!;) :t

[rmanet]

Interesting your note about the Celeron 800 outrunning the PIII 750 - I just assumed the latter would be a better CPU and I'm running a PIII 733 in one of my kids machines (I don't benchmark, but the other machines are Celeron 800 and 900 and they do seem much faster) - maybe time to get some new cpus....

[$1500-P4 gamer]

I'm just going by the benchs I ran. I did have a P3 600mhz and I know its way faster than that first hand. But I have no P3 750 sys. to run against here for a head to head comparison-only the references in the benchmark. The celII's are a great low-end solution. Got lots of power and the totally make the origianal cel look like the garbage it is! The cel was humiliated by the Duron mainly due to the limited fsb of the cel. but the celII (which is 100fsb) hold is own against the Duron. Which it should since its a P3 with half the L2 cache. Now the duron is gone-AMD killed it. Funny isnt it.---;) :t

[Peter M]

Duron isn't dead yet, but it will go away - but the idea of having "value" and "performance" CPUs for the same platform won't.

They'll phase out Duron "Morgan" (128+64 KB cache, 100 MHz DDR bus) on the bottom end, phase in Athlon "Barton" at the top end (128+512 KB cache, 133 MHz DDR bus), and shift the existing Athlon "Thoroughbred" (128+256 KB, 133 MHz) down to the "value" segment left behind by Morgan.

Get the plot now?

[$1500-P4 gamer]

Oh, I know that-that was my point. They (AMD) must be the top low-end solution at all costs it seems! Now that Intel is even withem they have to kill it and drop the XP down a notch so as to beat the CelII. Kinda sickeining as the Duron still had life to it yet. Oh well.:( :( :(

P.S. My duron (morgan) 1gig isnt going anywhere. For $40 (new) its the best deal ever and score really well.:)

[Peter M]

It's also a manufacturing decision. Their old Austin fab where the Durons were made can't do .13micron. So they stop making CPUs there altogether, move to making FlashROM instead.
Instead, they're revving their shiny new Dresden fab up to make more .13 stuff, and more advanced .13 stuff (Barton) on top of that.

regards, Peter