IntelConvert
07-13-2002, 02:03 AM
Corsair rules...
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$1500-P4 gamer
07-13-2002, 05:12 AM
Sisoft's referneces are laim to say it nicely! I have pc800 and I way outbench its reference pc800. So I would assume it will be the same in this case. Basically you cant go by that. Find somone with pc1066 and ask what their bench is. That will be a far more acurate way of telling than relying on Sisoft's reference systems!;) :t
IntelConvert
07-13-2002, 10:43 AM
OK, how about "DDR465 is really super-fast!!!"
If nothing else, Sandra's memory scoring has become much more consistent. After the first run, in which the INT value is invariably15-20 points lower than "normal", my values never change more than 3-4 points per run, even after rebooting. It used to be pretty much all over the chart.
Now I am starting to wish I'd gotten an I845x motherboard - that fixed AGP/PCI frequency would be really handy.
If this board had a 166 FSB/233 memory setting, I'll bet both the CPU and memory could do it. Any higher than 40 on the PCI bus and I start getting hard drive errors.
If nothing else, Sandra's memory scoring has become much more consistent. After the first run, in which the INT value is invariably15-20 points lower than "normal", my values never change more than 3-4 points per run, even after rebooting. It used to be pretty much all over the chart.
Now I am starting to wish I'd gotten an I845x motherboard - that fixed AGP/PCI frequency would be really handy.
If this board had a 166 FSB/233 memory setting, I'll bet both the CPU and memory could do it. Any higher than 40 on the PCI bus and I start getting hard drive errors.
grimfandango
07-13-2002, 10:43 AM
The new 1066rd ram is far better than the ddr..
IntelConvert
07-13-2002, 10:53 AM
There is a pic from Tom's Hardware review of PC1066 boards (http://www17.tomshardware.com/mainboard/02q2/020624/i850e-20.html) here - they aren't "reference".
There isn't a very big difference from the SS reference system, but they do pull slightly ahead.
There isn't a very big difference from the SS reference system, but they do pull slightly ahead.
IntelConvert
07-13-2002, 03:45 PM
grimfandango - does the new 32-bit structure help out with the awful latency the 16-bit pairs have? I don't know that much about it.
One thing this score does show me - there is DDR memory out right now that can run at 233 Mhz at default voltage. The technology isn't dead yet. If the manufacturers can coax that up to 266 (which seems pretty likely), one could run 133 FSB with a 1:2 FSB/memory ratio. From the testing I've done, which is limited I'll admit, the current version Sandra memory scores at that speed would be about 3700.
One thing this score does show me - there is DDR memory out right now that can run at 233 Mhz at default voltage. The technology isn't dead yet. If the manufacturers can coax that up to 266 (which seems pretty likely), one could run 133 FSB with a 1:2 FSB/memory ratio. From the testing I've done, which is limited I'll admit, the current version Sandra memory scores at that speed would be about 3700.
grimfandango
07-13-2002, 06:21 PM
There is even a new PC 1200 rdram!!!! WIch is far better/faster than the 1066!!!
LOOK
LOOK
herosrest
07-14-2002, 12:08 AM
It really really really does not matter how fast your Ram is.
What matters is how good is the software that uses it.:)
Why dont engineers write OS's.
Actually......
.................... Why don't intel write the OS.
What matters is how good is the software that uses it.:)
Why dont engineers write OS's.
Actually......
.................... Why don't intel write the OS.
$1500-P4 gamer
07-16-2002, 12:58 AM
Ram speed = bandwidth which ='s ,more multi-media power aswell as about everything else. So yes faster mem is VERY important. The catch is though that the cpu must be desiegned to take advantage of the extra bandwidth or its a waiste! the only cpu as of now deseigned for such massive bandwidth is the P4. Expect to see the P5 running some fast ram aswell though it will prob. be pc1200 (maybe) or DDRII (more than likely). Yah pc1200 is being produced. It first showed its head some time in winter months. I found a review in march I think where it run totally stable on a Asus P4T-E with ICS clock gen only! Most of the newer ASUS P4T-e's have the ICS clock gen. but some old ones are still floating around. I posted it here a ways back-maybe I'll hunt it down and post a link!
P.S. Rimm4200 (32bit rdram) is 4.2 gb/sec. hence its name. It is pc1066 back to back with mem controler intergrated into the rimm. It will help some but dont expect a miracle as the 32bit cpu output is still going to 16bit its just x2 meaning 16bitx2 not 32bit at all. Its a misconception that is causing alot of confusion. Its only real offering is that you can upgrade ram in singles like DDR and SDR-which is the biggest thing everyone put rdram down for _"you have to upgrade in pairs oh my!:eek: :rolleyes: :t
P.S. Rimm4200 (32bit rdram) is 4.2 gb/sec. hence its name. It is pc1066 back to back with mem controler intergrated into the rimm. It will help some but dont expect a miracle as the 32bit cpu output is still going to 16bit its just x2 meaning 16bitx2 not 32bit at all. Its a misconception that is causing alot of confusion. Its only real offering is that you can upgrade ram in singles like DDR and SDR-which is the biggest thing everyone put rdram down for _"you have to upgrade in pairs oh my!:eek: :rolleyes: :t
tking
07-16-2002, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by herosrest
It really really really does not matter how fast your Ram is
Originally posted by P4GAMER
faster mem is VERY important
So which is it? Even with the control issues P4Gamer mentions aside, I've heard that all that extra money spent on memory only gives incrimental increases (15% max) in overall performance even in the most memory ready systems.
T
It really really really does not matter how fast your Ram is
Originally posted by P4GAMER
faster mem is VERY important
So which is it? Even with the control issues P4Gamer mentions aside, I've heard that all that extra money spent on memory only gives incrimental increases (15% max) in overall performance even in the most memory ready systems.
T
$1500-P4 gamer
07-16-2002, 06:29 PM
"I've heard that all that extra money spent on memory only gives incrimental increases (15% max) in overall performance even in the most memory ready systems."
Your confusing mem speed with quantity. After 512mb of ram you only get a very small boost in speed. But we are talking about mem speed like pc1066 is 1066mhz! Thats bandwidth which is totally dif. To prove my point do yourself a favour. Go look at a P4 that is benched on sdr and then one on rdram. THe rdram pc will have a faster cpu even though they are both per say 1.8gig. A rdram 1.8gig is = to a 2.2 on sdr. Now thats a big dif. So as I said on a Amd XP, yeah no dif. Its not made to take advantage of the extra bandwidth. But a cpu deseigned specifically for high bandwidth like the P4 shows the dif in the mem types big time!
;) :t
Your confusing mem speed with quantity. After 512mb of ram you only get a very small boost in speed. But we are talking about mem speed like pc1066 is 1066mhz! Thats bandwidth which is totally dif. To prove my point do yourself a favour. Go look at a P4 that is benched on sdr and then one on rdram. THe rdram pc will have a faster cpu even though they are both per say 1.8gig. A rdram 1.8gig is = to a 2.2 on sdr. Now thats a big dif. So as I said on a Amd XP, yeah no dif. Its not made to take advantage of the extra bandwidth. But a cpu deseigned specifically for high bandwidth like the P4 shows the dif in the mem types big time!
;) :t
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