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Tillekus
06-17-2002, 01:56 AM
I have two question about them.
1) What are they, what are they used for
2) How do I use them (what program or such)
thanks again :)
*Good thing you people are so smart* ;)
Midknyte
06-17-2002, 02:06 AM
isos are cdrom images. You would use it with something like nero to burn cds.
Tillekus
06-17-2002, 01:20 PM
ok thx, btw is nero a good burning software? anybody know of some good ones (freeware or other)
Ram09
06-17-2002, 01:36 PM
I must say that nero is a good burning software, it is what I currently use and it works great. it depends really on what your gonna be using to burn, if iso's and bin files are what your gonna be dealing with, then I suggest you try fire burner, it can be dlded and used but its shareware, so if ya like, you can register it... those are my suggestions..
Ram09 :)
Evil_Messiah
06-20-2002, 09:53 AM
yup iso's are replica's of cd's in a single file, think of it as a uncompressed, somewhat complex zip file. To burn a .iso file use nero, or if you have xp, the iso burning power toy also works nicely. There are also other types of cd image files such as the "bin/cue" system and the "ccd/sub/img" type. These images need programs like cdrwin and clonecd, respectively. Also a very cool thing I found is a program called "DAEMON Tools" basically what it does is that it will use an image you have created and mount it like a regular cd-rom drive so that way you can use the image file without actually having to burn it, very useful to test out the image file to make sure it isn't corrupted in any way. hope that was helpful :D
Ram09
06-21-2002, 12:40 PM
while bin/cue was mentioned. is there a way to load/use/burn the bin directly without the cue file???
Ram09
Evil_Messiah
06-21-2002, 09:04 PM
i'm not 100% sure but i think i have tried burning a bin directly and it worked... give it a go, if it doesn't work, then no harm done..
gibsinep
06-22-2002, 12:23 AM
An iso made by Nero is a .nrg file. If you want to back it up on your system by making an ISO it wont work unless you have virtual cd or somthing like that. As the iso can't "mimik" the cd protection.
A .iso is made by a program called Winiso. I nice handy tool if I may say.
Oh yea Nero is great I can even burn .bin and .cue
A .bin and .cue is made by a program called CDRWIN. Another great tool.
Lastley a .ccd, .img, .sub are made by Clonecd. Which makes and exact 1:1 copy of the game even taking the cd-protection with it.
I kinda just explained a little more aboutwhat was said. Hope thats ok.
while bin/cue was mentioned. is there a way to load/use/burn the bin directly without the cue file???
Why not just make the .cue with notepad?
otheos
06-22-2002, 04:29 AM
An iso image is a generic iso9660 filesystem, identical to the one that goes on a cdrom. In windows you need a cdrom emulator to see the contents, in other os you just mount the image.
Unlike nero's proprietary nrg file format, which is a deviation of the iso standard, iso is not just some programe's imge file (such as winiso). Unfortunately and for some weird reason, windows software (roxio, nero) do not (cannot) build iso images that are universally used, and use their own prorpietary format. They can burn from iso though (heck, it is a cdrom image in the standard of a cdrom file system).
A cue/bin set of files is again a generic description of a cd image and is not proprietary, not a programs image file format (like nrg etc). Many programs use them (but again windows programs don't apart from a few). The bin is a binary container of the iso9660 image and the cue file is a descriptor. While iso9660 is only a data file system (cdrom) the bin/cue sytem is used for other CD based content such as CDDA (audio cd) or VCD CDExtra etc.
$1500-P4 gamer
06-22-2002, 05:31 PM
Then what about these playstation.iso's you see on like kazaa and such. How do they do it in a .iso if it is only data? Or dont they even work? I know that psx cd's are the XA format which has audio or something mixed in. Not really sure but I know there is more than just raw data isnt there? Not asking about how this stuff works or anything I'm just asking why thats possible (if data only) to make these illegal psx/psx2/etc. .iso's they have flooding on P2P prog.s! So .iso and bin/cue would have to be just a genric image of any cdrom right? Regardless the original format of disc. Least that was what I thought. :confused:
gibsinep
06-22-2002, 06:44 PM
I think in order to have a working PS2 backup ( that was not a dvd) you need you need to use clone cd at 1:1 ration at 1x. I dont think a .iso would work unless it has been cracked.
$1500-P4 gamer
06-23-2002, 04:22 PM
I see. Anyhow I was refering to psx not ps2. I know there are alot more of those psx games you bump into on P2P and they are all .iso. Wouldnt be surprised if they were virus's or atleast half of them.:) I know the ekaf ps2 emulator is a virus. I have a freind that dwloaded it and it got him good. Then I told him- read it backwords "fake ps2 emulator". You play with that stuff and you get bugged or hacked end of story!
gibsinep
06-23-2002, 06:02 PM
Same would go I think for PSX games sicne they game copy protection on them, I think so they wouldnt work. Probably just a fake rather than a 700mb virus. :eek:
jad1097
06-23-2002, 06:40 PM
www.isobuster.com
www.fireburner.com
http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_utils_9.shtml
Concerning PSX
http://www.megagames.com/psx/psx_cd_info.shtml
http://www.cdfreaks.com/document.php3?Doc=4
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