satellite dishes

[goombaz]

Hi folks. I see some of you are using cable modem access and am curious about dish access. We got a 2 foot dish at a garage sale /with receiver. Any thoughts of what to do with it besides using it for a bird bath?
Thanks http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif MJ

[Stan]

What about a barbecue ?

Just kidding...
Sorry but no other ideas...

Stan

[buitenb]

throw them in the neighbours window man !!

these are bad news cable it is !!


lol

[goombaz]

I like the barbeque idea LOL. Thanks, Stan. Just thought I'd let you know I am writing you from my $20 garage sale computer. Okay, it was 2x as much as the last one, but this one came with monitor, HoooraYYY!! I am having more fun than a person should. Could you please direct me to a site to learn about overclocking, now? ThankS!! http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif MJ

[Stan]

Wow, overclocking... now we are talking real business here !

There are 2 things to consider:
1) FSB ie front speed bus
2) mutiplier

For ex: a P200 MMX runs @ 66MHz FSB. It has a multiplier of 3. So, 66MHz x 3 = 200MHz

There are different FSB.
Intel CPU's have 66, 100 and soon 133MHz
AMD (for K6-2) have 66, 95 and 100 (75? not sure about that one)
Cyrix, I don't know. Anyway, this CPU is **** comparing to AMD and Intel.

Now, these are the OFFICIAL FSB. By official, I mean the ones that are supposed to be used when seting up the CPU (depending of the CPU, obviously).

You can overclock a CPU in 2 different ways:
1) you change the FSB.
For ex, set the FSB to 75MHz for a Pentium 200MMx. So, we have 75 x 3 = 225MHz !!!
Most of the CPU can handle a 75MHz FSB. The key is cooling: add extra fans, ...
2) you change the multiplier. BUT, most of the CPU (if not all of them) are multiplier locked. That means that even if you change it, the CPU will not "recognise" the change.

BTW: you change the multiplier/FSB on the motherboard itself: check the user manual.
For some mobo, you have to open the case and change some jumpers or switches. For other mobo, you do it in the BIOS (ABIT mobo).

Now, remember that you overclock the CPU at your own risk... But at the end of the day, if it is only a 20$ PC, who cares ?

Last thing (I am sure that I have forgotten lots of stuff, the others will fill the blank in... hum....): the PCI bus runs at half the speed of the FSB (PCI is video card, if it is not a AGP, sound card, ...). So, for a 66MHz FSB, the PCI runs at 33MHz. When overclocking to 75MHz, you ALSO overclock the PCI bus to 37.5 MHz.
So, when changing the FSB, you overclock the entire PC (hard disk, video card, ...).

Well, sorry for being so long but ther are so many things to say...

BTW, check out the "Overcloking and CPU's" forum of this great web site !!!

Have fun...

Stan

PS; how's your new barbecue doing ?

[Stan]

Wow, overclocking... now we are talking real business here !

There are 2 things to consider:
1) FSB ie front speed bus
2) mutiplier

For ex: a P200 MMX runs @ 66MHz FSB. It has a multiplier of 3. So, 66MHz x 3 = 200MHz

There are different FSB.
Intel CPU's have 66, 100 and soon 133MHz
AMD (for K6-2) have 66, 95 and 100 (75? not sure about that one)
Cyrix, I don't know. Anyway, this CPU is **** comparing to AMD and Intel.

Now, these are the OFFICIAL FSB. By official, I mean the ones that are supposed to be used when seting up the CPU (depending of the CPU, obviously).

You can overclock a CPU in 2 different ways:
1) you change the FSB.
For ex, set the FSB to 75MHz for a Pentium 200MMx. So, we have 75 x 3 = 225MHz !!!
Most of the CPU can handle a 75MHz FSB. The key is cooling: add extra fans, ...
2) you change the multiplier. BUT, most of the CPU (if not all of them) are multiplier locked. That means that even if you change it, the CPU will not "recognise" the change.

BTW: you change the multiplier/FSB on the motherboard itself: check the user manual.
For some mobo, you have to open the case and change some jumpers or switches. For other mobo, you do it in the BIOS (ABIT mobo).

Now, remember that you overclock the CPU at your own risk... But at the end of the day, if it is only a 20$ PC, who cares ?

Last thing (I am sure that I have forgotten lots of stuff, the others will fill the blank in... hum....): the PCI bus runs at half the speed of the FSB (PCI is video card, if it is not a AGP, sound card, ...). So, for a 66MHz FSB, the PCI runs at 33MHz. When overclocking to 75MHz, you ALSO overclock the PCI bus to 37.5 MHz.
So, when changing the FSB, you overclock the entire PC (hard disk, video card, ...).

Well, sorry for being so long but ther are so many things to say...

BTW, check out the "Overcloking and CPU's" forum of this great web site !!!

Have fun...

Stan

PS; how's your new barbecue doing ?

[Stan]

Hummm, dunno why my reply has been posted twice ???...

[goombaz]

Well, the barbeque is on the roof--and pointed at what we assume must be an ABC feed. It was an interesting weekend in that they had almost continuous feed (several actually) for the JFK Jr tragedy. (Horrible circumstances) but interesting to see a bit of what goes on just before, just after and how they decided to roll the camera, what to keep and how many times to shoot a blurb. Also, there was soccer, some comedy show and racing.

Don't have any idea what to make for supper, tho http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

As for overclocking, well, I do look forward to giving it a try. I have a presentation this week in school--and as it has been 15 years since I have been in school, I will need to focus on that--so won't get around to trying until Thurs or Fri. Also, neither computer came with any documentation. I hope I can find the pertinent info on the web.

A look at the books from my Gateway should help out as a start to understanding a bit about what I find beyond the VERY BASICS once I open the cover.

Funny how I take my first class in 15 years and get into computer repair the same week. I must have really needed a fix for mental stimulation. I am in way over my head in both-but no trouble treading water at moment. Of course when you get such prompt and interesting responses to inquiries, it is such fun!!!

I have checked out the overclocking/cpu site--but most terminology is beyond me right now. I really need the basics. Thanks for the encouragement and direction. Now I can get started.
Long, too, MJ

[MadMax]

If you still want a reply to your original post....

http://www.pcworld.com/news/daily/data/0698/980618175953.html

Sat push is available and effective but is big $$$. If you can't get xdsl, isdn or cable it might appeal to you.

IMHO~Jr. was TOTALLY responsible for his death and the death of those two innocent women. No "tragedy" only stupidity. Flight is not to be taken lightly or you end up dead.

[MadMatt]

Satelite net access is great for throughput (400kbps or so), but if you're a gamer don't even consider it. Your upstream data still goes over a modem to the isp then to the Hughs satelite server. Plus, the downstream has to travel thousands of miles minimum.

Overall effect is to make net gaming IMPOSSIBLE - Pings of 1300-2000ms (You need under about 250 to make gameplaying worthwhile.)