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shady
01-16-2001, 01:21 PM
Ok guys help me out on this one;

I have an old pentium 200 (SOCKET 7) and I wanted to upgrade it to a bit more powerfull so I can deathmatch with my friends since the only other powerfull comp in the house it my T-bird rig. Anyway I am looking at K6-2 500MHZ or K6-3 500-550MHZ, now what I want to know is which motherboard would compliment those CPUs the best, I mean in words of stability and performance, I also would like to put in 128MB PC100 of RAM in there too, and I need and AGP slot for sure. I was searching a bit and it looks like
DFI K6XV3+ w/100 MHz Bus (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=654321&Product_Code=110119)
satisfies all of the above, but I need to know how it will perform and if the above CPUs are good overcloakers. I would like to hear all your opinions on this one....if you know of any good K6-X XXX MHZ + MB combo, please post. I would really like to know about he overclockability too. thanx for you input


Edit: Oh almost forgot what is better K6-III 450MhZ or K6-II 500-550MhZ? And which one is the best OCer.......thnx you guys


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shadow
01-16-2001, 03:05 PM
I use a K6BV3+66 with a K6-2/500 and it works great, it will run a K6-3 and that would work better and also OC easier than K6-2's. I'd say the 450 K6-3 is better, dont bother with a 550.

The person I bought this mobo from says his K6-2/500 was running at about 630/2.4V/133.

There is a jumper not mentioned in the manual, supposedly to choose between 100/133.
I cant confirm this and havent tried it, not sure what would be running at 133 and what would end up being OC'd.

I like the board, much improvement over my PC-Chips ****.

wyvrn
01-16-2001, 06:54 PM
Since you are going with a whole new combo, why not a BH6 with a 566 celery overclocked to 850? They are pretty common, you can find them at:

Axiontech (http://www.axiontech.com)

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shady
01-16-2001, 07:43 PM
I gots to keep everything (RAM, CPU, MB) in the $200 - $250 range....so I am prob. going with K6-III 450MhZ and DIF MB + some RAM PC100 I found for $52.........I will probably will not OC it until sometime has passed..........so one more time.....if I buy the above CPU + MB will I regret it in the futer.....like compatibility issues and all? Can u recomend something else


P.S. Is it me or SysOpt is getting slow in terms of loading times of the pages and all?

Savant
01-16-2001, 09:43 PM
how about an A7V or kt7 with a duron?
kt7 (http://www.pcboost.com/page20.html) for $120 + about $15 shipping
and a quick search on pricewatch (http://www.pricewatch.com) should yeild a duron for under $50.
then a fop-32 from kdcomputers (http://www.kdcomputers.com) for about $20 including shipping and your ram and it comes to about $260.

AuraEdge
01-17-2001, 08:59 AM
The K6-2 and K6-3 line arent that good at gaming. If your gunna build a comp specifically for gaming, I would stay away from the K6-2 and K6-3.

You can pick up a cheap KT133 board for 80 bucks. These arent OC friendly, but they are price friendly. An unOC'ed Duron will still beat a K6-3 to the ground. (no offense to you K6-3 owners).

A duron 650 runs for 40 bucks, and ramps up 50Mhz for another 10 bucks up to around 800.

128MB CAS2 SDRAM runs about 50 bucks

Thats 170 so far...
shipping..well Ill go ont he highend and hit 30 bucks
thats 200 bucks.

Or if your in for a bit of an upgrade, you can grab a KT133a Board, shoot yourself up to 133FSB, and drop your current board into the duron machine.

Everythings on www.pricewatch.com. (http://www.pricewatch.com.)

And with a duron behind it, you wont hafta get that good of a videocard, as compared to if you got a K6-2 or K6-3 system, where the FPU cant do that much.

RalphArch
01-17-2001, 06:49 PM
I have to agree with Aura Edge on this and disagree with Shadow. I have that DFI motherboard with an AMD 550; and I also have a PCCHIPS M805lr with a Duron 650. The PCCHIPS blows away the DFI in performance; plus it comes with excellent on-board sound and a good 10/100 lan card - all for around $80. Since you are buying the Motherboard and CPU are you really trying to salvage a case here? Its not worth the $30 - plus you will get ACPI and other ATX features. If you must salvage the case go with a motherboard that supports a ppga socket in an AT case instead of a socket 7 board.

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shadow
01-18-2001, 07:33 AM
Yes I'd have to agree that a Duron will outdo a K6-2 or 3 and I wasn't looking to do so when I upgraded my mobo. I would love to get into that kind of setup but budget restraints dont allow me to do so right now so when the DFI came up I bought it and it certainly is a great (huge) improvement over what I had, which was a PC-Chips socket7. The DFI cleanly beats PC-Chips in the same class of mobo.

On the Chips mobo I could only run my 500 @ 450, there was no 100Mhz bus or UDMA/66, it had less cache, my Plextor burner wouldn't work properly on it, overall it had much slower performance. Since I had the CPU already, I figure the $100 (Canadian) was well spent and gave me a huge performance boost. I run Win2k/NTServer, now my HDD runs at UDMA/66 and my Plextor happily burns at 8x. It all depends on one's budget capabilities, sadly http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/frown.gif that's what it comes down to in the end for me. But I now have alot quicker machine which does all the things I want it to very well.