We are Nvidia.. You will be assimulated..Resistance id futile.

[DABSON!~]

Nvidia has ruled once but ATI will rule forever.....

Hail ATI......... ;)

[uncle_jimbo]

Originally posted by DABSON!~
ATI will rule forever..... Hail ATI......... ;)

HAIL NVIDIA


--uncle_jimbo

[silverfish51]

Nvidia: Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own...
Silver: It already has hasn't it?
Nvidia: You own a geforce 3?
Silver: err, yeah
Nvidia: And the other members of your clan, they also own GeForce cards?
Silver: Yeah... all except for baq99
Nvidia: And the clan all overclocks their geforce cards using coolbits?
Silver: Yeah... so does that mean we're going to be assimilated?
Nvidia: ...
Silver: well?
Nvidia: You just want jobs play testing geforce cards and unreal2 don't you?
Silver: umm....
Nvidia: No, no we will not assimilate you, :p so there
Silver Aww...



*bows*

[DABSON!~]

**Edited for inappropriate material -- Imperion1** This site is viewed by everyone.

[hoodedrat]

LOL! ... you guys got it all wrong... it goes like this

Nvidia: We are god *releases g5*

ATI : We are god *releases new radeon*

trident: ... *releases trident blade again*

Nvidia: *bows*

ATI: *bows*

[DABSON!~]

Nvidia : Buy ower card it's new but if you take off the heat sink and you see the GTS 2 scratched out and GTS 3 has been put on egnor that little detail.
Oh did I mention we are hiking up the price...

ATI : hey lets actually make ower card stronger, we have nothing else to do.

Matrox: Hey wake up::: Hmmmmmm oh who's there .. we were sleeping... Oh somebody actually beat ower MatroxG400max card.. Ok we will build another new card to beat everybody if you really want one. But we must eat.. But first we dance....

''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Years go by ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

New card company's.....
Hey let's buy some chips and build use there graphic card layout and build a graphic card and sell it.... "What do you mean it doesn't work"

[$1500-P4 gamer]

I like ATI but certainly wont BOW to them at all. I was a 3dfx fan in the begining. Still am! But I will say this, ATI wasnt even competition untill the radeon series and if you say it was I will laugh right now. I've had older ATI's and slow wasnt even the word. Its good they are doing better and have fast cards for once but dont act like they need a crown for doing there job. For once they actually release driver updates! Nvidia, 3dfx they always have. No BOW from me just a glimps in their direction maybe!:D Point is they have to stay where their at now for it to get a following. And I hope that the ATI's do only get better. Its only good for everyone as more comp. means cheaper cards from both co.'s involved.:)

[InnovaZero]

Honestly I don't think anything will be able to take NV30. For god sakes it mixes Nvidia and 3dfx Technology.

Nvidia + 3dfx = Gamers Wet Dream!

[Bsamuels]

1 word.. Voodoo3, now theres something to bow to... That card was like the ultimate in its day..

[$1500-P4 gamer]

I hear that. I had the Voodoo 3 3000 AGP and it rocked. My buddy still uses it. Killed the TnT2!:D

But now I'm a trader, I've switched to Nvidia.:eek: It was that or ATI and well Nvidia's are good. Leave it at that!:)

[Kruzin]

The sun is rising, and a new age is about to dawn on the graphics card world.

By the end of next week, you will all be wanting a new toy, and it aint gonna be from nVidia or ATI ;)

http://home.attbi.com/~kruzin-kenny/parhelia1c.jpg

[BipolarBill]

Don't tell me...the BitBoys are finally releasing a product? Maybe the new Matrox?

[Kruzin]

Read my profile ;)

[BipolarBill]

Dead link (as usual), but I get the "picture". I'm all for it!

[BipolarBill]

Until then,

CIRRUS LOGIC OWNZ JOO ALL! :p

[Kruzin]

Yea...sorry bout the dead link...our forums where down briefly a little while ago..they're back up now.

I was really refering to the bottom line of the profile.
But if you want lots of juicy hints. try that link again, and check out "The Crystal Ball" forum :cool:

[Jimstep]

most probably 3dfx under the covers...what's in a name...

[BipolarBill]

I can't wait for Parhelia. More competition is good for everyone - except maybe nVidia.

I have a name - ReGraphic.

[Kruzin]

Well, all rumors indicate you won't have to wait much longer.
The card(s) are supposedly going to be announced early next week, and when Matrox announces a product, it's generally available within 6-8 weeks (unlike other companies who promise cards 6-8 months in advance).

[DABSON!~]

Matrox I heard they have built and card that will sweep the market.

[Kruzin]

If you listen to the rumors, you heard correctly.
There is nothing 'official' yet from Matrox, but it is expected any time now.
See www.matroxusers.com for the latest and greatest news when it hits.

I predict a flashy teaser will show up tomorrow (or today depending on your time zone), and an official announcement around next Tuesday...I'll continue to check this thread, and update the status...

:D

[BipolarBill]

I just hope that Matrox does a better job with the 1.0 drivers than that boondoggle with the G400 and OpenGL. I assume that they will.

[Kruzin]

I think you're a generation off.
G400 had working OpenGL from day 1.
G200 was a different story. They did not have a full OpenGL ICD ready when they released G200, but they did release a mini-gl type wrapper for it that would run games until they had the full ICD finished...

[BipolarBill]

Was it that long ago? Perhaps. Anyway, here's a great article about Parhelia:

http://www.techimo.com/articles/i8.html

[InnovaZero]

Originally posted by BipolarBill
Was it that long ago? Perhaps. Anyway, here's a great article about Parhelia:

http://www.techimo.com/articles/i8.html

D***it this is just too much, the specs I've seen from PVR, Nvidia, ATI, and now Matrox, d***it I can't decide!!

Course my GF3 Ti has some life left though.

[Edited for language **Imperion1**]

[Kruzin]

Well, waddya know.
Matrox just posted a mysterious little flash into on their web site.
:D

http://www.matrox.com/mga/home.htm

http://home.attbi.com/~kruzin-kenny/flash1.jpg

http://home.attbi.com/~kruzin-kenny/flash2.jpg

:cool:

[BipolarBill]

Less marketing, more product! Grrrr....

I have a flash for Matrox!

http://www.webdeveloper.com/animations/bnifiles/flasher.gif

[Kruzin]

Less marketing?
It's a 10 second flash.
It's the first peep Matrox has made about their new card.
There has been zero marketing until now...
:rolleyes:

[BipolarBill]

I still like my flash better. :cool: I wanted to use a Central Park pervert GIF, but the mods would pull it anyway.

Any way you look at it, that flash is a teaser. Nobody wants to wait a week to hear the details. It's a game that no one but Matrox wants to play. :mad:

[Kruzin]

Would preffer they announce a card 4-6 months in advance, and make you wait for the card like everyone else does?

It's only a week, and I can promise it won't be anywhere near a 4-6 month wait for the card once the card is announced :)

Besides, you've read at least one artilce (the one you linked to).
You have a good idea what the specs will look like :cool:

[BipolarBill]

Oh yeah...I'm sure that these new cards will rock the game graphics world. Personally, I prefer Matrox cards when I don't need great OpenGL performance. Their 2D desktops are to die for.

Oh well, a week isn't that long. Besides, I have other things to do. ;)

[Kruzin]

Oh...I don't think OpenGL performance is going to be a concern with this new card :D

[silverfish51]

To be honest, I really don't care what card I have, just that it does it's job and does it well. I just happened to always get 3dfx in the beginning, then Nvidia after my Voodoo3 2000 just couldn't cope any more.

It just happens that I could get a cheap GeForce3 and overclock the shinola out of it straight from the box... buuut then what's new? I did that with every cpu I've ever owned too (which just happens to have always been Intel :) )


Intel: We have a new idea for a great cpu!
AMD: Let us guess, on made entirely out of money?
Intel: Yeah!
AMD: ...
Intel: But not just money... Look, clock locked money!
Nvidia: You do realise that you'd probobly sell more chips if they were'nt clock locked?
Intel: Really? But... But... We own Canada...
Ati: Big deal, we just bought Australia and New Zeland.
Nvidia: So? We own the moon... yes, the moon! We mean, how cool is that?
AMD: Yeah well, we're just going to stick with England and that little island on the bottom bit, y'know...
Ati: The Isle of White?
AMD: That's the one.


*hmm* It's late...

~
Silver

[Rugor]

Matrox Parhelia

3DLabs P10 VPU

Matrox has a habit of pulling an ubercard out of nowhere then vanishing. Will history repeat? If Matrox does another G400 they will rule the industry, briefly, but will they be able to hold it together?

And the 3DLabs P10 looks incredible too.............

Nvidia and ATI need to keep their eyes open--- they aren't running a two horse race anymore. SiS Xabre may be a contender, but both Matrox and 3DLabs have the proven ability to make a killer card.

[DABSON!~]

Yup lets wait and see if Matrox can pull another rabbit out of it's hat....But this time the Rabbit is made of GOLd!

[Kruzin]

Well, let me spread some rumors that have been posted around the net ;)

512bit GPU...an industry first (or close tie with P10...we'll see who actually hits the market first)
256bitDDR (giving 512bit theoretical-another first)
~19GB of memory bandwidth
DX9 displacement mapping hardware support
DX9 pixel shader hardware support
TripleHead support (with the ability to run OGL games spanned across 3 displays)
and the list goes on...

If these rumors pan out, I'd say Matrox will hold on for a while this time (though they've never left my systems for any length of time to start with) :D

[BipolarBill]

Own up, Kruzin! You game on an nVidia product, don't you? ;)

[Kruzin]

I am happy to say I just finished over an hour of UT on my trusty G550. I haven't played UT in a while (I usually play TFC). I must say, i'm still perfectly content with how the G550 handles my games.
But I do greatly look forward to Parhelia. :)
I'm already running a 21" and 20" montior on dualhead, and I'm trying to aquire another 20" for the other side of the 21". I can't wait to try fraggin in panoramic trihead mode
(if the rumors are true)

The latest rumor is that the latest Doom rehash will be displayed by Carmac running on a triple display rig, powered by a new, unannounced card....hmmmm....

:cool:

[Rugor]

I know Matrox can release a top of the line card, the only question is can they hold the position through more than one product cycle?

The G400 was brilliant, but they never followed it up properly.

[Kruzin]

Originally posted by Rugor
The G400 was brilliant, but they never followed it up properly.

I guess that depends on your point of view.
Matrox does not have a 6 month product cycle.
They never have, in over 25 years of buisiness.
They have always followed a 3 year cycle. A breakthrough chip they pump out for a year, followed by a couple years of refinements.
They followed G400 up with tuned versions (G450 and G550) of the chip, adding features here and there, and reducing price greatly along the way.
And they sold LOTS of them to OEMs and corperations.
And those sales have sustained them quite well.
So from a buisiness point of view, I'd say they followed G400 up quite well, while watching Diamond, #9, 3dFX and others go out of buisiness while nVidia and ATI hacked it out.

Well it's been three years, and they are due again. nVidia and ATI will not catch up to Parhelia in their next product cycle.
And If I where to make a bet, it would be that Matrox will continue to pump out revolutionary cards every three years long after nVidia goes out of buiz, or is closed down for one of their stock fraud fiascos.
:p

[Rugor]

When I say that Matrox didn't follow up properly on the G400, I am not saying that they stopped producing cards and making profits, what I am saying is that they released one very good card and then ceded that market segment back to the competition.

Matrox's approach to the aftermarket 3D accelerator field is a bit odd. They introduce a card that is easily the best in class, and make inroads into a new market segment. Then they keep producing variants on that card until it is no longer competitive in that segment before coming up with a new design. To use your own numbers Kruzin, they are effectively ceding the gamers market to the competition for two out of three years.

My question is why do they expend the resources to get into that market segment if they don't intend to keep a presence there. I don't mean to denigrate your G550, but it's not a card that was designed or marketed as a gaming card. If they want to keep any portion of that market, they need to maintain a viable presence throughout their own three year cycle.

[Lycia]

That's disgusting. :mad:

[Edited Quote out **Imperion1**] Material has been removed.

[silverfish51]

agreed, but just ignored it and went back to overclocking my gf3...

*hmm* I still have gaming mags from as far back as 1996, and the ad inside the november issue of pc gamer for the Matrox Mystique (£120,) and had a little graph in it comparing it to two other cards; fyi it was a from winbench test with the Mystique having 44m, the Diamond Stealth 2000 xl at 35.5m and finaly the ATI 3D Xpression at 34.2m...
IIrc I had an orchid voodoo1 accelerator card (a whole 4megs) around that the time...

To be honest, I really hope competition heats up for the card companys, it's always good to see them bring out shiny new technology to keep ahead of their competitors. In turn increasing graphic capabilitys of the comps and the games... Maybe one day true cinema realistic enviroments will be the de-facto standard in games.

~
Silver

[rraehal]

I have used a lot of video cards in my day. I love the 3Dfx cards. Too bad XP doesn't support all of them. Nvidia cards rock. They work extremely well for every thing I have ran on them. ATI - well I have one now and it works with DirectX 8.1 dxdiag.exe but will not run a single game designed for dx 8.x and higher. I just recently purchased a Raedon 8500. It rocks like the Nvidia cards. I am not sure where to go. ATI or Nvidia. My own experience shows me both are solid.

[DABSON!~]

Originally posted by rraehal
I have used a lot of video cards in my day. I love the 3Dfx cards. Too bad XP doesn't support all of them. Nvidia cards rock. They work extremely well for every thing I have ran on them. ATI - well I have one now and it works with DirectX 8.1 dxdiag.exe but will not run a single game designed for dx 8.x and higher. I just recently purchased a Raedon 8500. It rocks like the Nvidia cards. I am not sure where to go. ATI or Nvidia. My own experience shows me both are solid.

ATI is better but I do like nvidia cards for long lasting gaming...