Who likes Windows ME? (i sure do!)

[bob05]

Who likes win ME? I love ME!!!!! I hear ME bashing everwhere i turn. The only "problem" i saw was that it only had 1gig of memmory support but who really has that much, like 0.2 % out of 50 million! No istablity problems, and no problems with drivers or games. No major problems! Now what don't people like about it? And most importantly: well, who likes it?

Thanxs:D

[kazuza]

I do!

[Jimstep]

I have no reason to upgrade from Win98. I went straight to WinXP Pro to have something to play with.

[Johnny Fist]

I've used win3.11, 95, 98, 2000, and finally XP. After using 2000 and XP for about the last 7 months or so, I'll never have anything nice to say about any windows OS based on the 9X kernel. Upgrade now and you'll see what I'm talking about. Stability-wise, 2000 and XP are far superior products.

[bob05]

i have ME and XP and to me ME is faster. XP has too much stuff i don't need that loads up and causes my comp to be slower. ME rules!

[Johnny Fist]

I don't know, i have a XP1700+ with 512Mb pc2100 DDR ram that seems to handle XP pretty good.

[NDC]

Personally, I can't stand any of the MS OS's that's built on Win9x kernel..

[radon007]

Hi,
I use win2K and love it! I have to support many ME computers and it seems that there are many many problems. From networking to hardware to general OS issues. It is just not as near as stable as NT based OS's.

BTW- I am running win XP with virtual PC on my win2k box and it runs great - will with 512MB of ram total it does. :D

I suppose ME works ok in our environment as long as you don't try anything funny! Well I guess that my go for all MS stuff. :p

[Decat24]

Basically, I never upgrade to the newest and brightest OS until Microsoft iron out some of the bugs with a service pack. In my opinion WindowsME is perfect for me, especially if you tweak the hell out of it and disable system restore. I know some are asking why use WindowsME if you're going to disable the system restore feature. I'll tell you why:

1. WindowsME has a different TCP/IP stack which is faster than Windows98SE's, especially when surfing & gaming on the net.

2. Bootup/Restart speed is perfect

3. WindowsME is about as compatible with most existing software, much more than WindowsXP {because it's based on the 9x code}

4. It's more stable than Windows98SE, but not as much as either Windows 2000 & XP

5. The System File Protection feature (based on the similar Windows File Protection in Windows 2000)

6. I had no problems with ME and it runs all my software, which isn't the case with Windows 2000 or XP.

7. Right now I will not pay an extra $100.00 to have XP on all three of my computers. {Not in this life}

[bpan]

I bought ME, but found it was much to slow vs. Win98 on my Celeron 333 (even with 192MB RAM)

[NDC]

Let's not forget the terrible memory management Windows ME has.. :rolleyes: And no, it isn't because the software was poorly coded, it's the OS itself...

[Decat24]

Well to be honest if you use some custom tweaks in the 9x OS, then there should be no problem with the way Windows98SE or ME manages memory. Because really both OS' manage memory poorly.

[cableguy69]

I've been running ME since Jan '01 and have had no probs with it at all. Everything I've put into PNP has been recognized without a problem and without myself installing any drivers. I know lots of people don't care for it, but I've had no problems with it, so I haven't upgraded. And probably won't for some time.

[G Ray88]

Bought a new computer about a year ago with ME installed, works just fine, the computer has a Intel Celeron 800, with 128MB Ram. No problems:D

[[ja] LoCo]

I love win ME , XP is just eye candy

[Ammok]

Went from ME to win2k, and no more BSOD.

Sorry, once you have gone to win2k you will stay there.

You can always dual boot of course.?

Did I mention that I hate XP?

[bob05]

does "non-supporting NT" games work on win2000?

[Johnny Fist]

There is one way to find out.

[Ammok]

Most likely not, but is not too hard to dual boot your system with 98 and win2k.

[Aarmenaa]

It is a tie between 95 and ME as to which one is a worse example of the 9x kernel. I have an HP laptop that came preloaded with ME. I was disappointed from the start. Even after I disabled system restore, and chopped out all of HP's preloaded bull, it craws. Not to mention I've never seen so much blue in all my life. Give me a good old copy of Win98 SE any day over ME.

Since it's my dad's laptop, I have been forbidden from formatting the drive and putting 98 on it. He believes that I cannot put a standard retail copy of 98 on a laptop machine. Whould someone kindly attempt to explain why this would or would not be possible?

-Aarmenaa

[mcjamesk]

u guy's know more than me but in my opinion 98SE beats ME

[bob05]

there is very little 98 can do that ME can't. ME has the sys restore (98 doesn't). What don't people like about it and what can 98 do that ME can't (WHY DOES EVERYONE LIKE 98!???)?!?!?!?

[BipolarBill]

Originally posted by bob05
does "non-supporting NT" games work on win2000? Windows 2000 w/Service Pack 2 adds "Compatibility Modes" (Win95/98/NT) for programs. Although most older games will run, Soundblaster emulation in DOS games will not. You will only have the PC speaker in this case.

[tycoonist]

Originally posted by bob05
there is very little 98 can do that ME can't. ME has the sys restore (98 doesn't). What don't people like about it and what can 98 do that ME can't (WHY DOES EVERYONE LIKE 98!???)?!?!?!?

The System Restore function has saved my sanity many times. I can't tell you how many times I deleted something that I needed to run the system properly. Again, I must stand along side with bob05 and say that I like ME.

[bob05]

Originally posted by tycoonist


The System Restore function has saved my sanity many times. I can't tell you how many times I deleted something that I needed to run the system properly. Again, I must stand along side with bob05 and say that I like ME.

that's 1 person.......:D

[Kurylo]

About games. Only one (NFS:HS) of them didn't want to run at my WinXP system. And everything else is just perfect.
And, me don't want OS'es based on the Win9x/ME kernel - it is too bad for me.

[Aarmenaa]

System Restore almost isn't worth the power it takes up on your systems. Disable it for just a little while. I guarantee that you'll see a definite speed increase. Also, it's not just the system restore. It's just so slooooow. Maybe I'm just seeing things, but it take forever for ME to do the simplest things, such as surf the web. Besides, 98 has better DOS support. :D

[bob05]

Still no 98 supports have told me, what MAJOR things does 98 do that Me can't? And why do you like 98 so much?:confused: It is common knowledge that MS requirements for ME are too low but with a decent 300-400 mhz cpu and 128 ram, you should have smooth saling. Start-up time on XP is sssssssoooooooooo long! First it boots up, then i pick the account, etc. It takes too long. XP is a reasource hog way more than ME and with 98, and with 98 i had more blue screens than 95 or ME combined. I have had all M$'s OS and there's none that is perfect, but i have found no reason to hate ME.

[tycoonist]

Originally posted by Aarmenaa
System Restore almost isn't worth the power it takes up on your systems. Disable it for just a little while. I guarantee that you'll see a definite speed increase. Also, it's not just the system restore. It's just so slooooow. Maybe I'm just seeing things, but it take forever for ME to do the simplest things, such as surf the web. Besides, 98 has better DOS support. :D

System Restore doesn't slow down my system. It runs find, and even when I boot up, it takes it less than 2 mintues for ME to fully load. However, I don't have many programs running on my computer because want my OS to run smooth. Plus, I don't need the space that System Restore is using.

Finally, all my applications boot up fast on ME. I have used Win 3.1, 95 and 98 along with 2000 and I like ME the best. Win 98 is slow to me, even 98SE. Me is great for families and home users that don't need much out of their system. I believe Microsoft marketed the OS to those types of people.

[smelanson]

I would run Win 2000 or XP any day, I don't like the 9.X os but I would have to say that 95 is the best out of them with ME in second, there is something to be said about a basic OS without all the stuff you don't need and if you add the USB support it isn't so bad, Win 95 RULES (in the 9.X)! Not many BSOD, it mostly just up and froze instead. Orgionally I didn't think Win 3.11 had BSOD but then I installed it on my PIII 1GHz, it is not a big fan of new hardware.

[Swordfish]

The only thing I find any different in Windows Me is that its very fast booting wise.

Win98/98se is slow and also net connection speeds vary betwen 98 and Me, me is fast in that respect too.

[bob05]

Originally posted by Swordfish
The only thing I find any different in Windows Me is that its very fast booting wise.

Win98/98se is slow and also net connection speeds vary betwen 98 and Me, me is fast in that respect too.

that's 2:D ............well from what i heard ME has an updated TCP/IP program. 98 doesn't have this, making it slower on the internet.

[Kurylo]

"when I boot up, it takes it less than 2 mintues for ME to fully load"

My WinXP loads in 26 secs with an ICQ detect Manager, Riva Tuner background OC'er, and an A4Tech mouse special enchancer.
And, altogether with a decent Detonators driver I have full hardware support for all WinXP effects and interfaces, which don't slowdown my PC at all and utilize 0% of my CPU speed resulting in an extremely fast and problemless (WinNT core), together with very comfortable, experience.
No one could convince me to go using Win9x/ME.

[J.A.D]

I have winME/2k dual boot. I use ME for games. They seem to run better (and in some cases only run on ME).

My win ME boots up quite fast, and I have never disabled the system restore. I've never used it to restore anything, however.

I have a lot of problems with shutting down ME. It almost seems like goes in standby mode but nothing will get it out of it besides a reboot. I've been looking into troubleshooting tips for that but I have not yet found anything that has worked.

bob05 - one thing that 98 can do which ME cannot is pure dos mode. So many old dos games do not work in ME.

Another dos problem is that ME (and 98 and lower) won't give you a dos prompt if you have more than 512megs of memery enabled. At least they don't for me, and theres an MS knowledge base article on it.

[tycoonist]

Originally posted by J.A.D

I have a lot of problems with shutting down ME. It almost seems like goes in standby mode but nothing will get it out of it besides a reboot. I've been looking into troubleshooting tips for that but I have not yet found anything that has worked.


I have had problems shutting down ME, and I have found there is a problem with my network card and my computer. I have tried getting updates from the manufacturer, but to no avail. It could be a hardware or software problem.

[SPEEDO]

Well bob05 I'm with you, I must be one of those chosen few that the software gods smiled down on also.

I have been using it on one of my machines since it came out and the only quirk it has is that it is a little slower than the other OS's.

My kids play games on it, beat on it and it keeps chugging along...:D

SPEEDO

[bob05]

Originally posted by J.A.D


bob05 - one thing that 98 can do which ME cannot is pure dos mode. So many old dos games do not work in ME.

that may be true but neither can XP.......

Originally posted by SPEEDO
Well bob05 I'm with you, I must be one of those chosen few that the software gods smiled down on also. SPEEDO

thats 3.............

:D

[smily_03]

ME is ****! I work for the Academic Technology department at a university, and we have nothing but trouble trying to get it to work on the network. Of all the problems we have setting up student computers to be able to access the network, 98% of them are with windows ME. The success rate of getting the Novell Client to work on a ME-based computer is about 1 in 8. The memory leak in the software also is a huge pain; my roommate bought a brand-new Dell with 384MB of RDRAM and Windows ME preinstalled, and it gave him nothing but trouble. He upgraded to XP and it hasn't given him an ounce of trouble since. Me, I prefer windows 2000 pro

[Aarmenaa]

98 does take a long time to boot up-I think there's a glitch in the boot code that makes the computer pause for a long time. Every Win98 system I have ever seen has this long pause with no activity. This does not bother me, however, becasue I leave my computers running pretty much all day, and just turn them off at night.

In my experience, Windows 98 just causes less grief overall, even with the flaws. I have never seen my internet connection slower than on ME (I'm on DSL. I get about 142 KB/s), and my programs all come up quickly. 98 is also more accepting of tweaking, in my experience, although ME has gotten much better with patches.

As a last note, I am also biased against ME, becasue I had the OS way back when it first came out and was the worst OS on the market. After MS patched everything, it did get much better.:D

-Aarmenaa

[Colonel Casio]

NOT me!! I went straight from WIN98 First Ed to W2K Pro, & could not be happier.:)

[Rugor]

Windows 98 detected the PCI bus on my system on every boot, WinME didn't.

WinME was terrible when it first came out, since then it's probably got better. Still it has a higher system overhead than Win98SE, and is more geared towards users who just take what MS gives them happily. ME tends to make it easier to configure from pre-selected options, but it's not as easy to do something MS didn't pre-select. Plus not having access to DOS mode in the 9x core is a handicap.

If I'm going to use a 9x based OS, I'll take 98 over ME any day.