Computers suck, WebTv rules!

[ablang]

Here's what this lady tells us why (an obvious loon):
http://davmagic.com/PAGES20.html

[jokostel]

ok..... http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

jokostel



[This message has been edited by jokostel (edited 12-30-2000).]

[jaida]

uhhhhhhhhhh yes thats almost a valid point

hehe yeah right http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

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[brandon184]

Her ramblings were capricious and arbitrary. I'm not satisfied. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif

- Brandon

[Richard_Cranium72]

That did it for Me.

I'm selling my P3 800 and 21" monitor and getting me one of them new fangled thangs http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

NOT !!

I bought my g/f's surviving daughter a Web TV 2 yrs ago.

They were thrilled for a year or so, until the new wore off, and they discovered the limited sites it would allow access to..

Now she has a Proteva 366 64ram that has been running almost 1.5 yrs with NO problems..

a minor miracle in itself http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

DrVette

[By-tor & the Snow Dog]

Well, then I guess I'm the moron, huh?

Hmmm.....

Oh well, I guess I'll just walk to the edge of the Earth and jump off, since it IS FLAT!

By-tor

[plucky duck]

LOL!!! http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Nah, she's no loon, she's just biased like the rest of us are with our hardwares http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif Well, @ least myself.

Diss my Riva128 and I'll make sure there'll be no Christmas present for ya next year, hehe

She does have a few good points, but not convincing enough for me to run out right now sell my PC and get a WebTV http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif

Both WebTVs and PCs have their own place to stand, neither is going to rip each other apart. The target audience are much different for WebTVs.

Pluckster

[By-tor & the Snow Dog]

Oh by the way, the "browser" that webtv uses make it hard to manage web pages. It seems to read html funny, so if you save your changes, you're screwed! I had to redo my entire page, because I wanted to change a marquee, didn't notice the irregularities in the code, and saved it. Then had to go back and redo the whole thing.

Anway...

Happy New Year!

By-tor

[Savant]

Look at all the wonderfull statements: (well a few...)

With PC's having a much higher screen resolution, the details are greater for an average web site view and the picture viewed is given a "more calculated exact line and image view" which takes away from the lower resolution, more eye appealing picture that viewers appreciate from ordinary television ( which a WebTv provides )!
I don't suppose it ever occured to you people might like higher resoloutions? (oh just think I could be doing this on a low res tv screen instead of my 1024x768x32bit computer screen, what an advantage!)

WebTv uses an infared wireless keyboard which means you don't have to sit right in front of the screen to view the internet,
Those are available for computers too.

WebTv's wireless keyboard dosen't use a "mouse"!!! Instead you just use the 4 arrow buttons to scroll up or down! It's SO SIMPLE...No MOUSE...and there's NO SIDEWAYS SCROLLING...only up and down.
you can use the arrow keys to scroll up and down on a pc too, we just don't because it's a pain.

I don't anticipate my needing a webtv anytime soon http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif
Savant

[NDC]

ROFL http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/biggrin.gif http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/biggrin.gif http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/biggrin.gif What a joke!

[randy48]

What's a TV?

[Warthog]

That's testimony that a WebTv can do virtually anything that a PC can do; at least enough to build a website like this!

Like ummmmmmm go online...

Can't think of anything else at the moment.

Warthog

[GroundZero3]

idk right when i popped right into the site the mario music convinced me right away. I remeber when my aunt receieved web tV for x-mas. since it was my first dealings with the internet in a home i thought it was the coolest thing for about maybe 2 minutes and then it got old very fast.

That's testimony that a WebTv can do virtually anything that a PC can do; at least enough to build a website like this!

i almost coughed up my soda when i read that! hrmmm the pixels on a tv can not compare to a monitor. lets see you play Quake 3 or half life on that piece of **** machine. You can get a wireless keyboard and mouse for your pc.

Don't forget COST. A computer set-up generally runs about 1000$...

apparently this was written with out being researched very well. you can get a very nice computer from a local computer story for under 300 bucks. depending on what your gonna do with it. anywayz my 2 cents.

JaYsin

[Fudge]

She's on crack


'nuff said...

Fudge

[pin-monkey]

WHAT??? You mean that 56k connection is better than my DSL?? OH MY GOD I'M GOING BACK TO DIAL UP!!!!!!
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Savant]

i almost coughed up my soda when i read that! hrmmm the pixels on a tv can not compare to a monitor. lets see you play Quake 3 or half life on that piece of **** machine. You can get a wireless keyboard and mouse for your pc.

no no no! you must remember low res is an advantage:
With PC's having a much higher screen resolution, the details are greater for an average web site view and the picture viewed is given a "more calculated exact line and image view" which takes away from the lower resolution, more eye appealing picture that viewers appreciate from ordinary television ( which a WebTv provides )!
Savant

[Thud]

That's testimony that a WebTv can do virtually anything that a PC can do; at least enough to build a website like this!

Betcha it can't crack RC5. Ha ha!!

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[Mykex]

How high can I expect to be able to overclock my WebTV?

ALSO what is the basic CPU system power by is it Rodent,Feline or K9 based? If it is also rodent powered can I use equipment from my hamsters setup?

[voogru]

She's on crack

'nuff said...

Fudge



I agree!

She Must Be one Idiot! If the webtv is so great why did she buy a pc?

-voogru

alos I may send her a Very Nice email... I compared what you can and cant do with Webtv


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[AuraEdge]

My parents got a webtv a while ago
...figured as a DEDICATED WEB APPLIANCE it could at least have the BEST QUALITY MODEM in it

guess what guys


Its a 33.6k..

[jl123]

Woo! She made that site on the Webtv!! Now that's something to be proud of. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif

NOT!

Without PC's there would be no internet. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

The newest Webtv has the 56K modem. Big deal. LOL

~Joel

[Szech]

And WebTV service is expensive... relatively speaking that is. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's about $19/month, right? Geez, after a year, you've paid a good $228. And you can't view every page! Stupid! I've built cheap azz systems under $300 before, and have used TV-out for the monitor (Use the magnifier tool, and dedicate the upper part of the screen to it), and it's a hell of a lot better than any Web-TV system! Thanks to Netzero and Altavista Free-Web, they don't even pay for Internet service!

Hehe... Check this out... Anyone who can view her page already has a computer and Internet service or has a WebTV. Will someone please e-mail her? I'm really lazy.
~~Edit: Or call her... Please give us a call for a FREE ESTIMATE..810-7577224...if you live in our area!

As for everything else she said...

To do various things that PC's do with software...a WebTv user simply finds an ONLINE SOURCE WEBSITE that provides the same function and uses it for FREE, with limitations sometimes...

It's called shareware or freeware dumbass!

the WebTv Browser is capable of creating some STUNNING visual effects (visible only on a WebTv)...

Boo hoo hoo! I can't see your background! I prefer flash animation cartoons off icebox and romp!

IMAGINE IF YOU HAVE A GIANT SCREEN TELEVISION...WHAT AN ABSOLUTELY SPECTACTULAR VIEW OF THE NET !!!

I have a 13" TV, and a 17" monitor, you tell me where the spectacular view is. By the way, learn how to spell spectacular.

In fact you can even surf the net while you watch TV thru a pop-in TV Window on screen!!!...AMAZING...

I just got a Voodoo3 3500TV... I can watch TV while I surf, type in Word and play Freecell. Plus, I can record TV, and edit it.

In addition...WebTv has a feature which if you have Call Waiting (Thru Your Phone Co) you can set it so that if you're on line and you get a call, you can receive the call WITHOUT being completely disconnected from the Internet and when you finish answering the call you just hit "Enter" and you are reconnected in a few seconds!!! Try doing that with a PC!

They have that on PCs, and they have DSL and cable modems too.

Perhaps as we now can purchase a television with a built-in VCR, we will be offered a television with built-in WebTv terminal!

God I hope not. Don't tack the price of that **** onto my TV.

If You Are A WebTV'ER... You Can Help Promote It... Just CLICK HERE NOW Then Print One Copy... Duplicate It At Your Favorite Five-Cent Copier And Pass It Out Anywhere You Like (I Post Em At Supermarket Boards)...

I wonder if she's getting something out of this...

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[t048]

With PC's you have nearly 25% of the screen used-up with cluttered techinical styled scroll bars, navigation bars and generally computer stuff info. This takes away the customary entertainment value of the screen that viewers want because they are used to seeing a full screen from their ordinary television and cable viewing experience.

If you use IE, you can press F11 and there will be no more techinical styled scroll bars, navigation bars and generally computer stuff info (well, execpt for that techinical styled scroll bar on the side). http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif
What a joke.

[voogru]

I Emailed her Probally at the wrong address but im sure i get an email back. and i not expecting a very nice one back!

[ablang]

I could've picked apart her argument many different ways.

Firstly, she says WebTv requires no software programs to run, and that because it has no hard drive, it can never get a virus. Well, the server runs software programs, and undoubtedly has a hard drive. So if the server goes down for WebTv, the whole network goes down.

Secondly, you are held hostage by what they decide to support. There's no freedom of choice.

Thirdly, they will never get java support, limiting websites that they can access.

[Roy]

H. Ross Perot's "great sucking sound" really was WebTV! http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif

[Savant]

what do ya wanna bet her page is hosted on a pc and not a webTV? http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/biggrin.gif

[darrelld]

Here's the address let's all mail our point of view and explain how ridiculous that article is, mines on the way. dlsd@webtv.net .
I think that e-mail address explains it all dlsd

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[AzKidd69]

She forgot to add that webtv does some of the sloppiest HTML coding you have ever seen....

and apparently it does support some really non standard html...(take a look at the source)

and maybe someone whould tell her that when you put up a site a spell checker is a good thing...

lemme see.. umm f7or for webtv... um... Webster's Dictionary??

I betcha she is one of those people who should never leave or want to leave AOL...

[Rugor]

I've seen a lot done with webtv.

I play an IRC roleplaying game that has a website created by a webtv user that's an awful lot better than anything this woman has come up with.

Having said that, the webtv provides a markedly inferior internet experience with and is much less flexible overall than a computer.

It's not worth it.

[mccoggs]

Can you play games on web tv? 2d, 3d?

[RayH]

Actually, there is a good place for WebTV. Not everyone needs a computer. I know a retired guy that just surfs the net, doesn't need downloading, and just send/receives e-mail.

First, he bought a computer that didn't work right. Intel had some bad chipset that affected about one million computers then. After a couple of frustrating weeks, he took the thing back and got WebTV. He couldn't be happier.

[Jimstep]

What's a web...There's nothing like gaming on a pc. 'Nough said.

[relay_0052]

Originally posted by randy48
What's a TV? "good for" when u have so much hardware u can add too your pc

[phecky]

"which takes away from the lower resolution, more eye appealing picture that viewers appreciate from ordinary television which a WebTv provides! "

Uh, yeah right! Then why the push towards HDTV which is to say MORE RESOLUTION??!! I'll tell you why- because IT LOOKS BETTER!! Duh!

"If You Are A WebTV'ER... You Can Help Promote It... "

Just another marketing ploy!