What do you think of Windows XP? [Archive]

Mr. Sparkle

03-16-2002, 07:32 AM

Originally posted by Bizkitkid2001
It took you one gig to install? How when the disc is only 700mb. Mine didn't take a whole gig.

Ummm, yeah. The files on the CD are stored in compressed cabinet files. It actually takes more than a gig to do a clean install with all the options & such.

From Microsoft.com's official XP Pro requirements:

Here's What You Need to Use Windows XP Professional
PC with 300 megahertz or higher processor clock speed recommended; 233 MHz minimum required (single or dual processor system);* Intel Pentium/Celeron family, or AMD K6/Athlon/Duron family, or compatible processor recommended

128 megabytes (MB) of RAM or higher recommended (64 MB minimum supported; may limit performance and some features)

1.5 gigabytes (GB) of available hard disk space*

Super VGA (800 × 600) or higher-resolution video adapter and monitor

CD-ROM or DVD drive

Keyboard and Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device

* Actual requirements will vary based on your system configuration and the applications and features you choose to install. Additional available hard disk space may be required if you are installing over a network.

upgrader

03-16-2002, 08:04 AM

I agree with most of the comments here about XP. I formatted C: and did a clean install from 98SE to Xp pro. Everything about it is better. No crashes, much faster starting software programs, web pages download faster, etc. As far as hardware, didn't have to make any changes. Updating device drivers is the worst part, some can be tricky to find online, but mostly not too hard. Didn't have to update bios. The issue of older programs designed for W95 and 98 can be a pain though. Overall I'm very happy I took the plunge. Go for IT:) :)

Jimstep

03-16-2002, 08:08 AM

There is an upgrade utility at MS website that will tell you if WinXP will install and work with the components on your system. I don't know how good it is, though, because it quits running on my system and doesn't tell me what the problem is, so at this point in time, I went with SuSE Linux. It was much cheaper and came with tons of applications.

Ammok

03-17-2002, 10:29 AM

I think XP is cr*p. I hate Xp. I hate being a mug every time MS brings out a new op sys.

I have gone back to Win2k, the only MS op sys i have found to be truly stable.

Imperion1

03-17-2002, 03:28 PM

Running a dual boot 98SE / WinXP system. No problems with XP. Haven't tried playing games with it yet. Only problem I'm having with it is getting it to network with my other machine. XP doesn't see it, but my other machine running 98 can see the CP machine.
As for hardware compatibility. Here is what is in the system.
AMD tbird 1G oc'd 1.33G
512mb Crucial DDR2100
Epox 8k7a
Visiontek GF3
Creative X-Gamer Live 5.1
Hauppauge PCI video capture card
Linksys 10/100 nic (version2)
Siig Ultra ATA100 IDE card
Maxtor 30G ATA100
52x cdrom
Lite-On 12x10x32 cdrw
Hewlett Packard Deskjet 712C
Samsung SyncMaster 955DF

Didn't have any problems with the setup or installing drivers.

Kurylo

03-17-2002, 04:14 PM

I've had WinXP right from it's beta version up to two weeks ago.
And now I'm sitting at Win98. Know why?
1. Win98 didn't ever lock up or made any fault since I've installed it. It may be interesting, but WinXP was locking up twice per day.
2. Those lock-ups were occuring because the drivers foe WinXP are not stable.
3. My sound, which runs good in Win98, in WinXP becomes like my sound card has a static charge on it.
4. I wonder, why Win98 is faster than WinXP?
5. Do YOU know, that Win98 shuts down for a time of 0.5secs, while WinXP - for 3-5ses?

Ammok

03-17-2002, 04:25 PM

With mine

my DSL line kept latching

Zonealram would not work

Several BSOD a day

Grokster and Morpheus would crash

My burner failed to work

i had to download huge amounts of data to get things running

I had to undo all my overclocking or it would crash big style

It didn't like my system

TB1.4 256DDR G2-64mb

It's cr*p.

I love win2k.:D :D

Bizkitkid2001

03-17-2002, 04:45 PM

Ammok:

Did you buy the upgrade or the full install of XP? I don't know but I think the upgrade will only work if you have win98 installed or win 95b installed. Not quite shure about Win 2000.

Did you reformat your hard drive before installing? This helps.

Did you get it installed by Best buy? If you did get it installed by them then your screwed. They don't know how to install it and they set a password on mine. Had to end up reformatting that hard drive.

Mr. Sparkle

03-17-2002, 04:53 PM

The way the upgrade chart works:

Win 95B, 98, 98SE & ME can all upgrade to XP Home or Pro.

NT Workstation 4.0 & Win2K Pro can only upgrade to XP Pro.

NT Server 4.0, Win2K Server & Win2K Advanced Server will all be able to upgrade to Windows.NET Server when it is released later this year.

If for some insane reason, you want to upgrade XP Home to XP Pro, that can be done, but not XP Pro to XP Home.

Ammok

03-17-2002, 05:07 PM

nope, brand new virgin 60gb HDD and a clean install of Xp Professional with Xp Plus.(it did set itself up quite well, apart from the from the HP8200 burner)

I must admit, i do like the aquarium screensaver.

Previous to hating Xp with a vengence, i hated Win98 with a fervour, cos that didn't like me either, but Millenium did, thank God.

Bizkitkid2001

03-17-2002, 05:32 PM

I still don't know why XP doesn't do so good on your computer.

I know you don't have an old computer. Maybe it doesn't like some of your hardware.

I was just one of the few lucky ones who didn't have any problems with hardware and XP.

The only thing that didn't work was my old 28.8k modem. Its doesn't matter for me, I got cable now and a new 56K modem as back up.

rickdcableone

03-17-2002, 11:25 PM

XP is get once you get to work loading it is a lot or work.:cool:

Zooeygirl

03-18-2002, 02:47 AM

Love it. Best os I have ever had. Hasn't crashed once in the 4 days I have had it. Didnt have one problem installing it. No problems with the cd burning capabilities. No conflicts whatsover. In fact, my old connectix quickcam is not supposed to work on XP, but it does. Did have a bit of trouble with installing the software that came with my polaroid digital cam at first, but found that it was easy to install using the compatibility mode. I rate XP 100%. Am very impressed. Have used 95, 98, ME and now XP. Had many, many, many crashes and bsods from day to day with every one of those. :)

Highly recommend trying XP!

Kurylo

03-18-2002, 07:06 AM

I had WinXP for almost half-a-year starting from early beta version to today's XP PRO, and not for 4 days of testing.
And I can say you: IT IZ THE CRAPPIEST SOFT I EVER USED !!!
Win2K is the best among them.

Ammok

03-18-2002, 01:03 PM

Win2k is best for me. i do know that there is a humungous service pack coming out for Xp so perhaps i may traumatise one of my poor little darlings and load it on when the Sp is released. Until then, W2K all the way.

lowlife_ltd

03-18-2002, 06:20 PM

DO NOT GO WITH XP Linux is better, If you want to be in-control of you computer and what it does go Win2K or Linux RedHat.

XP IS THE DEVIL

:cool:

Bizkitkid2001

03-18-2002, 06:50 PM

Why do you think it is the devil?

Its been about 3 weeks now and have had ZERO, ZIP, NADDA, no crashes or freezes at all.

bob05

03-18-2002, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by Ammok
With mine

my DSL line kept latching

Zonealram would not work

Several BSOD a day

Grokster and Morpheus would crash

My burner failed to work

i had to download huge amounts of data to get things running

I had to undo all my overclocking or it would crash big style

It didn't like my system

TB1.4 256DDR G2-64mb

It's cr*p.

I love win2k.:D :D

I also agree to some extent. Major problems with DSL. Had to PAY for new software for it. My burner stopped working too. Also I had to patch XP up to get it to work. Half of my 95/98 games will not work forcing me to use the old 200 MMX mhz to run them. But don't get me wrong i love my 200mhz computer!:D

gibsinep

03-18-2002, 07:06 PM

The only problem I had was installing my road runner internet.

The disk I had wasnet for XP.

But that was no biggy since my comps are all connected by a hub all I had to do was set up a cable connection to this computer.
Only took a few minutes.

SPEEDO

03-18-2002, 08:07 PM

Bizkitkid2001

You can do a clean install with the XP upgrade but you have to put in the CD from a full version of 95B, 98 or any NT file system when it asks for it.

SPEEDO

Ammok

03-19-2002, 12:48 PM

Oh yeah, XP totally wiped out Unreal Tournament for some reason, and I was told it Win2K that no good for games, but UT works fine on it.

Bizarre. It's Billy Goats Gates again, just can't stand selling a system that works.

Bizkitkid2001

03-19-2002, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by SPEEDO
Bizkitkid2001

You can do a clean install with the XP upgrade but you have to put in the CD from a full version of 95B, 98 or any NT file system when it asks for it.

SPEEDO

I know. Thats how I installed mine.

But now i have XP Pro Corp.

hyborn

03-20-2002, 04:17 AM

hehe - these are the arguments that keep me with 98se.

Also the fact that I have no cash to buy the thing in the first place, even tho I am getting it OEM.

:cool:

jwerner1

03-20-2002, 01:07 PM

I've had Win 95, 98, 98 2nd Ed, ME and now XP home Ed.

Prior to XP I used to get 1-4 system lockups a week most weeks.

After installing XP 2 months ago = zero lock ups!

Pro's:
Far more stabile than any 98 or ME product.
Easy Install

Cons:
Check Microsoft Web site for compatability issues with your computer and peripherals. Older extras may or may not work.

Advice:
If you are just an average user installing the home Edition,
use the FAT file system.

If you are above average, go directly to the NTFS.

dosmastr

03-20-2002, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by upgrader
I agree with most of the comments here about XP. I formatted C: and did a clean install from 98SE to Xp pro. Everything about it is better. No crashes, much faster starting software programs, web pages download faster, etc. As far as hardware, didn't have to make any changes. Updating device drivers is the worst part, some can be tricky to find online, but mostly not too hard. Didn't have to update bios. The issue of older programs designed for W95 and 98 can be a pain though. Overall I'm very happy I took the plunge. Go for IT:) :)

i did the same upgrade, I haven't really tested every game i own, i'm sure some won't work without tweaking and others may never at all, I hear the roller coaster tycoon expansions still don't have patches for it yet (they crash, but the original runs great! go figure)

XP autodetected EVERYTHING on my system.
Driver updates.... ug... i've been tring to get those but it seems every time i try XP locks on startup. restart, a couple times and its usually good, if not just have it roll back settings.

i had a fairly new system (Spitfire/thunderbird athlon Class)
so bios update wasn't needed... I just hate having to learn everything all over again, and i hear that people with cards for video/sound capture may be out of luck because its a real time os, no way to lock it down so only one prog takes 100% of what it wants (as audio capture programs need to prevent popping in the audio feed)

my biggest gripes are drivers, backward compatibility with software and having to learn everything new. (what "service" does what, how to disable etc.) It is indeed the first MS upgrade I would whole heartedly reccomend on grounds of stability since DOS.
heres a little blurb on MS os's
windows 95 ug...froze again...already?
98 ug.. thought they fixed that problem this time...
98SE well pretty stable but not 100%,
windows ME ha, stability whats that??

XP -- my system crashed? how? why?? what did I do?
also many of the memory leaks have been plugged. (instead of looping 3dmark and losing 50points every run, now i only lose 2-3)

thats my experiances with MS os's if you've had different please don't flame me.

dosmastr

03-20-2002, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by jwerner1

Advice:
If you are just an average user installing the home Edition,
use the FAT file system.

If you are above average, go directly to the NTFS.

why do you suggest average users just use FAT(32)?
I have heard NTFS is superior in every way.

i'm not slamming you, i am just saying what i heard and i want your take on it.

Slipknot

03-20-2002, 04:09 PM

Im intersted in the NTFS / FAT comment too.

Are you guys using the home or pro edition or XP?

Ammok

03-20-2002, 05:03 PM

dosmastr

you missed out win2k!!!!!!!!

TOTALLY ROCK SOLID
:D

labwitch

03-20-2002, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by Bizkitkid2001
Why do you think it is the devil?

Its been about 3 weeks now and have had ZERO, ZIP, NADDA, no crashes or freezes at all.

I'll tell you why I think it's the devil...
Sure, it doesn't crash as much, but it's easier for some people, including people from a remote location, to mess with your machine.

It doesn't want to run ANY of the apps on our lab computers, it doesn't like our Virus protection, it doesn't like our network set-up, and it sure as heck doesn't like Word Perfect. All said, XP's good points just mask the fact that now, we have less decision-making power than ever with a Windows OS. XP doesn't even allow us to decide how neat or cluttered we want our desktops. I'm sick of it.

YborManiac

03-20-2002, 09:48 PM

WinXP and Win2K are both good choices, especially over earlier MS OS's (95/98/ME). Going from Win2K to WinXP, however, is not a wise choice. For businesses, Win2K all the way because WinXP has licensing issues that make cloning PC's a major headache (a significant time saver for LAN administrators). For example, if I buy X number of Win2K licenses, I can use one CD and install on a host PC, clone the PC in 5 minutes (using Ghost 2K) to other PC's, and they all function perfectly. With XP's copyright licensing, each PC is inspected and won't function properly until a contact to MS is made and the cloning process is explained. MS will still require a fresh install of WinXP on each workstation as opposed to cloning and it takes me about 2-3 hours to set up WinXP, Office 2K, etc. on a workstation when I can do the same with cloning Win2K in 5 minutes.

Don't misunderstand me however. WinXP is a fine, stable product if installed properly and does a better job at configuring existing PC devices (because it comes with more current device drivers and supports newer devices).

Linux is still a bear to configure for novices and should be left up to techies; also, there is no Office 2K software for Linux available as Microsoft will not think of producing it. Office suite software is the most widely used software out there, and Linux has no real alternative except StarOffice (which is good software but not Office 2K and is more difficult for existing Office users to become proficient at).

My 2 cents worth.

koonthul

03-20-2002, 10:16 PM

Dual booting Win98SE with XP Prof...ROCKS THE HOUSE...

PIII 600mhz EB processor with 133 mhz bus
256 meg ram at 133 bus
RivaTNT2 Ultra 32 meg graphics card 2x AGP port...ick....
13 gig UDMA66 7200 rpm HD drive with 98SE installed
60 gig UDMA66 7200 rpm HD partitioned to two 30 gig for XP Prof

Those of you with both business and gaming tastes really need to dual boot. Its really easy. Game in 98 -- Office and Graphic apps in XP prof...for stability....

I will have to note that I am suffering from lack of CPU speed at the moment, XP dogs a little when multitasking...even with the amount of RAM I have.

Those who have not crashed Win98 yet is because you DON'T really use or mess with your machine. IE , install tons of different apps, run hard core graphics apps, edit video, install different pieces of hardware monthly, update drivers all the time, etc...

XP Prof is cool, but it is still NT underneath...old versus new..same old problem...

Peace....

~]{

BlueFlame

03-20-2002, 11:09 PM

Ugggh, XP expensive, very very expensive. Though I did have a crappy setup to begin with. I work at a public High School and used one of our left over machines to as a guinipig. Full format of HD, installed it my self, and as I was restarting it for the first time it froze. XP had eaten nearly half of my disc space and was running to high for the processer to operate smoothly. Would have had to get new vid, and more memory not to mention new processor to operate at level of 98. Also it looks like they went through a lot of troubble to make it look "sexy" like Apple's OSX. :rolleyes: Navigation was pretty crappy, they made it geared for people that only wanted to get to the IE Icon on their desktop, no worries if you use Power Desk or simmilar app. All in all, no if you've got a crappy machine. Yes if you've got a decent one and money. But then again you all should be running Linux. :cool: Free AND stable. What beats that?

jwerner1

03-21-2002, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by dosmastr

why do you suggest average users just use FAT(32)?
I have heard NTFS is superior in every way.

i'm not slamming you, i am just saying what i heard and i want your take on it.

Response: Installing the upgrade to the FAT or WIN98 does not involve any conversions of hard disks from FAT to NTFS, therefore it's simpler and safer for the average user.

For the better techie's, NTFS is superior and offers better security, speed, Etc than FAT format. I have heard that you are better off reformatting the drive to NTFS, than doing the upgrade from FAT on just part of a drive. Haven't validated that yet.

michaeln

03-21-2002, 02:07 PM

I'm running WinXP Pro on an Athlon 1300 with 512 meg ram. Best OS I have ever used in so far as it is most stable, reliable and fast.

I have tried Win98 SE and found it crashed often. To date I have had no such problems with XP.

I do not play games so I can't comment on it's games side

suzuki1

03-21-2002, 08:57 PM

For now I would say Win2000 pro is the best way to go.
Win xp is built on win2000 technology just with more bells and whistles but is still too far new of a system to work properly, Remember that if it is a new product then you can bet there will be many bugs. They dont perfect products before being released, they get it good enough to release to the public and worry about the bugs to fix later, thats why they have service releases. If you want winxp I would wait until they release a second version with the fixes in it.

My opinion is for now go with win2000 pro, I installed mine in Oct. 2001 and have had no problems at all. Remember win2000 pro had been out alot longer.

Oh and before I forget NTFS file system is much better. Fat 32 is ok but has its problems. Read this or click here:

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article07-043

Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)

Intended For
Windows Me
Windows 98
Windows 95

FAT32 is the modern mechanism used by the operating system to keep track of the files on your hard disk. It replaces FAT (file allocation table), used by Windows 3.x and Windows 95 (original release); it is more efficient in the way it stores files (allowing a smaller cluster size), and it supports larger hard disk partitions (well over FAT's 2-GB limit). The only drawback is the free space bug.
FAT32 is supported by Windows 95 OSR2 (aka revision 'b'), Windows 98, Windows 2000, and Windows XP. FAT32 is not supported by Windows NT 4.0 or Windows 95 (original release).

Every once in a while, especially if your computer crashes, you may notice that Windows does't calculate the amount of free space on a drive accurately. For example, if you have 800 megabytes of data on a 1 gigabyte disk (not counting slack space), Windows might actually report that the drive is full. To repair this problem, do the following:

Run Scandisk (scandskw.exe in Windows, scandisk.exe in DOS). If there is a discrepancy, it will be fixed.

Note: this will only resolve the temporary discrepancy - it won't eradicate the bug.
Note that Windows 2000 and XP, when running on FAT32, don't appear to suffer from this problem. Furthermore, both Windows 2000 and XP also support the NTFS file system, which is more secure than FAT32.

hyborn

03-22-2002, 09:15 AM

I took a deep breath, and have just purchased XP Home (full not upgrade) OEM.

Will come back with my comments next week...

:cool:

Pezza

03-22-2002, 03:34 PM

All I can say is that my first attempt with XP was a disaster, this was back in November last year. But now, after a full Fdisk, format and reinstall, I have a system as stable as a rock. Blue screens of death and lockups are a thing of the past. Part of the trick seems to be to make sure you have all the drivers you need beforehand. If you can't get xp specific drivers, win2000 ones work 99% of the time.

I installed XP as a dual-boot system with win98 on my wife's machine, as she wasn't convinced. Now she always boots into xp. To emphasise the difference, she had an average of 2 or 3 bsod's per session with w98 (she does a lot of work with graphic/office apps). She's had none with xp. The other evening, she booted into w98 for some reason or other, and it crashed during shutdown (a common occurrence). In fact, I remember being pleasantly surprised in the days of windows 3/95/98/me if all went well from bootup to shutdown. Now, with XP, I take it for granted. If your hardware is pretty recent, go for it. Older mobo's, graphics cards etc can cause heartache though.

Jimstep

03-22-2002, 07:05 PM

I found a program in my SuSE Linux 7.3 system called BSOD. It basically simulates a BSOD for us Window users.

I've had Windows 3.1, 95, and 98. I've run Linux from Red Hat, SuSE, and Slackware. All of this has been fun to learn. I find the cost of Windows XP prohibitive. Microsoft is real proud of this version. From what I have seen and heard, it may be the best operating system on the planet. But, at that cost, I am willing to try an alternative like Linux. After all, that is the same reasoning that I am running on an AMD cpu, price/performance ratio is great. I've picked up Windows XP Pro in the store about a dozen times and ended up putting it back. SuSE Linux 7.3 Professional won my dollars for about $70. Lots of software to play with.

vass0922

03-25-2002, 04:55 AM

I've had many problems with it...
Initially when I got it, it was on my work laptop with xp pro had no major problems.

Put it on my home PC, installed fine... just couldn't do a **** thing with it... tried to create a vpn with my wireless card... it didn't like that it would ALWAYS create it associated with stupid my dialup 56k modem!! I could not for the life of me figure out how to change it to associate it with my wireless card... how retarded!!
EVERYTHING is done with a freakin' wizard. LET ME Set it up!!!!
Having a wizard available is fine for the general users... but for the love of god let me do it my way!! I'm not a freakin' retard!!

You STILL have to have a 3rd party app to do anything at all with Windows GUI, regarding so that did not impress me in the slightest.

My wireless card, the little icon in the system tray nearly always says disconnected even though I'm surfin the net through it :rolleyes:
I shut off the automatic wireless stuff because it was competeley worthless for my card.

I've had the blue screen many times LOL
Allllll due to my graphics card...
Now granted its very rare (geforce 2 mx 400) (btw yes I'm being horribly facetious).

I've tried the drivers from nvidia download, doesn't work so well with CS, tried the ones from Windows Update.. didn't work so well... tried the 27.xx betas and they worked for CS!! but BSOD :(

and I STILL HATE IT in windows with that **** auto install ****. ASK ME IF you're to install something dont just do it... arghhhhh I want to update the drivers... so no I have to go into stupid safe mode to reinstall a **** vid driver... and det destroyer doesn't work for it :(

I now have Win2k installed on my box, and have fomatted xp.
If I have to I'll stick with the dual boot.

Although I'm well on my way to learning linux so I can eventually kick them all!!!

Ammok

03-25-2002, 01:39 PM

You don't like it much,then?

rrugg

03-25-2002, 03:37 PM

I totally hate XP but my dad installed mine and I think he screwed it up. He tried to like frag this thing (hard disk?) and totally screwed up some files and it wouldn't boost. He got so mad he ripped all the cards out and started all over. Anyway, he tried for two hours to install it without the keyboard hooked up and got so mad he ripped some antenna thing off the video driver (whatever, some piece of metal sticking out of the back). Anyway, my games all suck now and I hate it.

jm1green

03-25-2002, 07:08 PM

BE READY TO SPEND SOME TIME IF YOU DONT DO A CLEAN INSTALL, BUT BOTH RAN WELL FOR ME COMPLETED

VERY SMOOTH AND QUICK
GFORCE 2 64MG APG 400
396 RAM
SEAGATE BARACUDA IV 7200RPM
COULD NOT FOR THE LIFE OF ME GET MY CREATIVE LABS SOUND BLASTER LIVE VALUE CARD WORK WITH 'XP' THE UPDATED DRIVERS DIDNT HELP, TRIED EVERYTHING
IWILL VD133PRO MB
SETTLED FOR THE BUILT IN AC97 SOUND(****)
UNTILL THE FOUNDS FOR A GOOD SOUND CARD BECOME AVAILABLE
CREATIVE LABS 8XDVD - DECODER CARD **** WITH XP
USE POWER DVD- DOESNT WORK NEAR AS WELL AS THAT DECODER CARD WORKED ON A CELERON 466 ON WIN98
RARELY FREEZES

OH YEAH ALMOST FORGOT WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL HEARD ME RIGHT. THE LAST ITEM I HAD WORKING CORRECTLY WITH XP WAS CREATIVE LABS BLASTER SAVAGE4 32MG AGP, FORGET IT , NOT WORKING FOR OR WITH XP

THIS IS GREAT IF YOU HAVE KIDS
MAKES IT VERY EASE TO SEE JUST WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT
XP PRO

I ACTUALLY LOVE IT BEST ONE YET

WINDOWS

Roy Wilkins

03-26-2002, 10:34 AM

I upgrade my ME to XP pro yesterday, it looks very different(nice), Im still browsing to see what other stuff they put in,but I didnt see in xp to make a boot disk/ startup disk, is this the same as win98 or ME? maybe

upgrader

03-26-2002, 05:28 PM

Roy, To create a startup disk in WinXP double click my computer, Highlight floopy drive. click file/ format/ create MsDos startup disk.
I love XP pro too!!:)

durock

03-26-2002, 06:58 PM

I have XP Pro on my daughters machine.
She loves it and that makes me happy.

xenium

03-26-2002, 08:34 PM

XP!! If you got a fast pc!!
i'd installed it on a P200 with 128MB Ram, slow like hell!!
For gaming, i'll not recommend it.
ANd it's lack of compatibility.
i think, it's not a good choice for now.

:(

davmrls

03-29-2002, 01:03 PM

Iv'e Upgraded to Windows XP Pro and did a clean install. I've had nothing but problems!! I have a Compaq Presario 500MHZ, I did a test before installing and it said everthing in my computer was compatible. My biggest problem with XP is that it crashes all the time for no reason. My computer could be just on without running anything and it will crash. This happens several times a day. My system has become unreliable....so I think I'm going to try Windows 2K Pro. The only way I would try the OS is to buy a knew computer with it already installed on it. Just my 2cents....

Bizkitkid2001

03-29-2002, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by xenium
XP!! If you got a fast pc!!
i'd installed it on a P200 with 128MB Ram, slow like hell!!
For gaming, i'll not recommend it.
ANd it's lack of compatibility.
i think, it's not a good choice for now.

:(

If you would have read the box it said a minimum of 300mhz

rextex

03-30-2002, 01:36 AM

XP = ...No Thanks!!

http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=102151

Angruin

03-30-2002, 04:51 AM

I for one am not happy with it - it won't run my joystick (PantherXL) for one thing, and it locks up almost everytime I reboot and I have to restart it over and over or go back to a previous restore point to make it work.

And heaven forbid I install some new software. All the things I ran on Win98 are a gamble to install on XP (I have home edition).

I did have a fresh install done, too, on a brand new HD/mobo/cpu setup. /sigh

LionSword

04-05-2002, 11:47 AM

I think Win Xp is great. It´s far more stable than the former Ms OS´s. BUT, I´ve had som trouble with Zonealarm (worked in 2k) and I had to download a "couple" of patches to both my hard- and software

If you´re gaming, I recommend you to use a dual OS system. I have an Win ME at my primary partition and Win XP at my secondary. Games are at my primary, and office/programming and anything else that is the most essential to me in XP.

Have thoughts about going back to Win 2k, my firewall (Zonalarm) worked there... Haven´t had any "aliens" in my comp YET.....

Jimstep

04-05-2002, 03:13 PM

Well, okay, I finally broke down and installed WinXP pro. Wow! Best installation experience I've had in a long time. Had a problem with XP seeing my Win98 winsock.dll, but other than that, everything seems to be working fine. Very fast.

Rugor

04-05-2002, 03:32 PM

Wow lots of interesting data here, I'm not ready to throw the cash in to take the plunge, but it really seems that XP Pro is the way to go and XP Home should be left in the same trash heap as ME.

Thanks for sharing

setiguy2000

04-05-2002, 05:37 PM

I was one of the "beta testers" MS invited to try to OS back in July of 2001. Ran it for 5 months... love it!! Finally bought an "OEM" version of XP Home. Runs great! If you buy an OEM version you will save roughly 30-50% off the retail version. Same OS but no manual.

Updating drivers is not difficult since you can have the "Device Manager" to do it for you automatically via the net. Some drivers may need to be updated from the hardware vendors' websites, but the system overall is a piece of cake.

Regarding formatting a hard drive for XP, if you have a new HD and it is unformatted... install XP and it will automatically format for you during the install process. XP will even let you create as many partitions as you need during the install process.

If you are upgrading from Win98SE, then I would suggest doing a clean install by wiping the HD clean using a "low-format" utility which will wipe the HD of any format and it writes "0's" to the drive. Then reboot the system with the XP install disk in the main CD-ROM drive... the system will go from there.

You will not be disappointed! :cool:

LionSword

04-11-2002, 06:19 AM

Originally posted by Rugor
Wow lots of interesting data here, I'm not ready to throw the cash in to take the plunge, but it really seems that XP Pro is the way to go and XP Home should be left in the same trash heap as ME.

Thanks for sharing :

Have you had problems with ME??? :confused: I think it´s an "ok" OS, also when one´s connected in an network f.e. playing with friends. If you know of any Problems, I´m interested in what kinds and how/if you solved them.

Thanks!

Jimstep

04-11-2002, 08:02 AM

I have discovered that WinXP will work with my CD burner without any other third party software. I like the interface much better than Adaptec's. When I use the CD/RW cd's, all the space is available for use. With Adaptec, you have to go through a lengthy format and loose about 70Mbs of usable space. I don't know how MS is doing it, but I like having that space back.

jwerner1

04-11-2002, 08:15 AM

I had some difficulty getting my Plextor 8/4/32 drive to work under XP Home with Roxio's EasyCdCreator V5.X; Support told me that many people were having similar probs; it's funny it should happen since Roxio actually developed the XP CDRW programs for MS & XP.

Finally, I had to de-install my copy of Roxio's EZCD S/W; disable Roxio's Take-Two (backup) S/W (not compatable with XP; and disable Roxio's DirectCD, since MS's version supercedes it.

I was real upset about having paid $85 for the latest Roxio EZCD then loosing Take-Two, since I was using that to backup to CD.

The burner was the only problem I had installing XP-Home, and have had zero crashes or lockups since the install back in January 02.

Strat

04-11-2002, 09:26 AM

Win98SE did me proud for years, it's a great OS.

I also really like Win2K, which I have now.

XP is stable, fast, runs smooth etc etc, I just seem to prefer Win2K but I don't know why.

Rugor

04-11-2002, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by LionSword
:

Have you had problems with ME??? :confused: I think it´s an "ok" OS, also when one´s connected in an network f.e. playing with friends. If you know of any Problems, I´m interested in what kinds and how/if you solved them.

Thanks!

I found ME was unstable on a computer that ran Win98, Win2K and Linux just fine. WinME just wouldn't find the PCI bus on every second or third reboot. It was also incompatible with a lot of my tweaking programs. I have found Win98SE easier to tweak, easier to network, faster and more stable.

I solved my WinME problems by going back to Win98SE

Easy

04-15-2002, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by Jimstep
I have discovered that WinXP will work with my CD burner without any other third party software. I like the interface much better than Adaptec's. When I use the CD/RW cd's, all the space is available for use. With Adaptec, you have to go through a lengthy format and loose about 70Mbs of usable space. I don't know how MS is doing it, but I like having that space back.

3 queries:

1. Does XP have a function like Direct CD? Disappointed to find I couldn't use Easy CD 4 and Direct CD 3 with XP (and having to buy new versionn of VirusScan..!), and losing Jewel Case creator.

2. Anyone know if Jewel Case creator from Easy CD 4 (on it's own) would work with XP? Could I install and use just that?

3. XP won't read one of the CD-RW disks I had data backed up on. Luckily I backed up at least twice before format and install...!!
I thought maybe it was because of the UDF (is that right?) reading software, but I guess XP has it if Adaptec/Roxio wrote the burning software with XP. Any ideas?

Easy