WHICH OF THESE SYSTEMS IS WORTH THE MONEY

[CWB]

I would like to know your opinons on this
The processor will be a
800 thunderbird or
800 PIII on an asus board

With
256 pc133 ram
20g hard drive 7200rpm 100/udma
16x poineer dvd drive
Hercules 32mb ddr-dvi geforce card(99 bucks can't pass that up?? or can I)
Sound blaster live value!
Windows me
Us robitics voice data fax hardware modem
SIIG 1394 fire wire pci adapter
Basic keyboard/mouse/floppy drive
300watts mid tower

Use: gaming of course, and using my sony digital camcorder to edit home movies and hopefully for video emails and conferncing.(better solution??)

Not sure if the fire wire adapter does video conferncing.

I was thinking about the 64 vivo radeon card but that cost to much.

How about the asus v6800 deluxe. Have the ddr 256 geforce plus able to do the video conferncing.

The price for the system box only
Thunderbird 1183
PIII 1225

What do you think?(is the PIII system worth the extra money only $42 but if it was 100 or 200 would it be worth it,, or,, t-bird hands down.)

Were can I go better, what to stay away from

(to the powers to be sorry for the multipost one other topic)

[thxmanu]

I'll probably get brutally rebuffed for this, but, I'd go with the PIII. Reason: I've been noticing (for quite some time) that most of the problems posted are AMD configurations!! Am I right?

[CWB]

I have a amd k2 cpu in the box at work. As do many of us here and we have nothing but problems. Blue screens, programs shuting down, windows takes for ever to shut down, long boot up time. I heard of the problems with the k2 and k3 amd cpu's but I thought the bugs have been fixed with the athlon, the t-bird and the duron. Such a price difference between Pentiums and amd's This is why I asked the question. the config. of this system I thinking of buying is only $45 difference maybe it is worth it?

[Warthog]

I think that the reason you see primarily AMD problems is because there are primarily AMD users on this board.

I could be wrong.

Warthog

[thxmanu]

I've used Intel in all my systems and have little or no problems. Like you said, if the difference is $100 or 200 ok, but $45?

[LiLRiceBoi]

are you going to be building the system? if you're afraid you might have problems w/ the a7v, get an abit. both abit and asus are very good motherboard manufacturers.

[Dputiger]

I've got to agree--the reason you see more AMD than Intel problems is because these boards are more oriented towards the hard-core "tweaker" crowd. Since the Duron/T-birds came out, they've dominated that end of the market.

Look back to about May--you'll notice the boards are full of Celeron data with some K6-2/K6-3 stuff.

Now, to answer your question, I think both systems are excellent. The T-bird will probably perform a little better, but will you, the end user notice a huge difference? I don't know.

[CWB]

Thanks for the input.

I been looking through the forums on this site and have notice alot of trouble with asus a7v board? I got 1 t-bird to 1 pIII
I don't know?

Also what other solutions are out there for
my camcorder, i would like to use it for video conferncing or just get a web cam(If so which a good one.)

[Win_98]

I thought I seen those post somewhere already in cpu section?! hmm I dont know why I would want to repeat myself again.

[CWB]

WIN-98 they closed the thread because i posted on two forums. so i asked again.

[OuTpaTienT]

For those of you that mistakenly think the PIII platform is more robust or more stable than the Athlon's, well you must have selective vision because there plenty of threads with people needing help w/their PIII. (I'll point them out to you if you'd like.)

**ALL** systems are going to have their share of problems...deal with it.

If the PIII system were $45 less, then maybe it'd be worth the discount...but to pay $45 more for something that will give less performance is just ludicrous (IMO). I wouldn't hesitate to go with the T-bird. And put that $45 in a slush-fund to eventually go towards a broadband internet connection (cable/dsl).

[CWB]

Me persoanly ---Dn't like to pay more for less or for the same thing.

OuTpaTienT----You are one of the few that have given workable answer, thanks.

as for the cable/dsl---I live in upstate NY in the country--No cable/ but maybe dsl but don't think so.

So what benefits does the t-bird offer over the PIII as far as video editing/creating conferncing. and for gaming.

[NDD]

Dude !
Get AMD without thinking !!!
And with recent price drop you can get Thunderbird 1 GHz ...
Don't worry about compatibility issues - AMD now stable as rock...
If you afraid of mobo problems and you're not so experienced in solving problems - leave the Asus and Abit and get Gygabite. I run a computer store, so I know, I had some troubles with Asus A7V, read about some trouble with Abit (don't remember the mobo name/spec), but here I sell Gygabite based Durons and Thunderbirds without any problems. The only think I'll recommend is GOOD 300W+ power supply, and stable well-known-brand memory, I prefer Infenion/Micron CAS2 PC133 SDRAM

[socalgal]

Hi CWB

I know you didn't ask abou harddrives, however, I would suggest if you're going to be doing video work to get a much larger harddrive - or two.

I have an 18G IBM and it's almost full after only 6-8 months. And I don't even edit videos.

Some good deals appear here:

http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/Forum10/HTML/000961.html